3 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I said months ago he should be with the under 23s!

Yeah about time ..lets hope it does him some good.

More interested in how Chapman is doing to be honest.

12 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

Football is on a Saturday at 3pm or 7.45pm on a weekday night. The vast majority of games are at those times...except when SKY get involves which as an ST holder one has to accept when buying one's ticket. However, the issue here is that the club have decided to move the game without reason. When football clubs move games there is always a reason given (Sky, Police etc). Do you see the issue now?

And as I said in my original response that is irrelevant to someone having to miss the game because they have a responsibility to the company they work for and a contract to abide by. I've missed lots of others things to go to the Rovers, playing football, nights out, family do's. We all make sacrifices to go to Rovers. . I just can't miss work and that's the point I made.  There is no equivalence between a hobby and a job you have to attend to pay your mortgage. 

Please try and stick to what is actually being discussed rather than what is going on in your muddled head. We don't want a repeat of all the stuff you got wrong yesterday now do we?

Now now are you to trying to belittle me and make me cry ?? ?

Again BlooBoy its not all about you ! Whats insignificant to you as another person having to miss the game is probably very significant to them.

Unfortunately I cant miss work too ..but im sure theres others who will now get to see the game who would have had to work Saturday afternoon.

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

I was responding to someone who was complaining about others complaining even though they themselves were unaffected.

What on earth does someone working Mon-Fri have to do with a game being moved from 3pm to 12pm on a Saturday by the club for no apparent. At least be relevant

Relevant to the fact whatever kick off time is or whatever day someone somewhere will be unhappy ..like yourself 

And Meadows daughter is now going to have to miss Drama which shows however insignificant this is to you (but im damn sure it isn't to her ) or others that KO times will never suit everyone.

58 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

Good for you. I'm not because I'll probably be working and won't be able to get there in time. Do you work on a Saturday morning?

Am I ok to be annoyed because they've switched the kick-off time for no obvious reason which means as a ST holder I now won't be able to get there? Is it reasonable to be annoyed that one of the few times a local derby is not moved by the Police or Sky, Rovers themselves have decided to move it instead for no apparent reason?

 

Absolutely irrelevant to anyone else's situation, unless of course her drama is compulsory and/or pays the mortgage.

Drama queen ! ?

Everyone s situation is different .. and those who work Mon - Fri will probably look at your situation and think that's its irrelevant just as those who work 2-10 will think they re hard done too with the number of games changed to midweek for tv (which im told has no bearing on attendance numbers ?) 

You will never please everyone 

(btw im missing it through work too but that just how it is in an era when the working week isn't Mon - Fri like in the good ole days )

Just now, Waggy76 said:

I think  , the chances of Rovers getting into the Play Offs are none existent ..Unless the owners  go out and get the right manager in ...Kean ,Berg ,Appleton , Bowyer , Lambert , Coyle and Mowbray ... Worrying !

Bowyer had the best squad of players by a long long way ...

Lets not forget Bowyer got to bring in 25 plus players too into Ewood ..even I would get three decent players out of that many !

W1 D1 L 1..GB 

Just now, Mercer said:

Had enough of this misery.  Only consolation is I backed Brum this morning and the winnings will come in very handy for tonight.  Off to the local to wet my whistle. 

The Curse of Merce ..

and  1-0 down ..

7 minutes ago, Mercer said:

25 goals conceded and just 10 goals scored.  Equivalent to conceding almost 60 away goals in a full season - a damning statistic. 

So over 2.5 goals is todays bet Merce ?

3 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

Ah so you've changed from football as a live event is a thing of the past (disproved based on attendances) to admitting football as a live event is popular but would be even more popular if it wasn't for TV.

It Rovers are bucking that popularity trend then Rovers need to do something differently instead of using passive aggressive marketing slogans ('are you committed, they are'  boolllocks) and Waggott casting aspersions on the historical size of our club. 

 

I also doubt the figures spun regarding average attendances are actually  up ..can I say fake news ?..

Not too sure we can trust attendance figures when season ticket numbers are counted whether that person is actually there or not ..the empty seats at the Emptihad and various other sell out grounds are there for all to see .

I'm calling it fake news Bb ..sod it !?

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

We all do. The rationale you put forward as to why was the issue. It seems you were barking up the wrong tree. The question now is how do we fill seats that are always empty. We all have different opinions on that which is fine.

Not necessarily barking up the wrong tree at all. In my opinion its a factor.Regardless of average gates across the country being up ..without the tv saturation gates would be even higher if people want to watch football. So to me its an issue. No incentive for people to get off their asses and watch a game when they can simply push a button and have a choice of whatever game they wish.

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

Now, now, nobody said it was a shit club. If you can't fake news it then straw man it eh?

My opinion BB ..I see empty seats at Ewood...lots.

10 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

You also got that bit wrong, on top of the football attendance stuff Perth quoted. You seem to be indulging in a lot of Fake News ?

https://news.sky.com/story/cinema-attendance-is-highest-since-the-1970s-11581982

 

Ah ok il sit down..i was just going off what i see with my own eyes at games . And the empty cinemas bar 2 for 1 weds . Must just be a Rovers thing ..just a shit club eh ?

19 hours ago, Stuart said:

Looks like we’ve got the important stuff covered.

I guess that’s all the walk-on fan needs to get down and support the lads: convenience in getting your match ticket. Wonder if this be at a reduced price because the club now has zero service costs...?

Getting ready for when TM is sacked ..match day tickets are £5  (free before midday ) and the return of the so called missing 10000 fans ..not! (Cant fault the club for trying to move with the times though)

Football as a "live " spectacle is a thing of the past now. We ve a generation of football fans that think a live game is one that's on tv. They ve no interest going to a ground to watch ..they ve no need to ..football on tv in the home  ,pub ,tablet ..phone ..most important games can be picked up as a stream. That's live football.

I look at the young adults sat around me and the majority of those were brought by their dads (and mums) as kids when football was less tv influenced and have now carried on either because of loyalty or habit. The next generation will be very thin on the ground. 

Football as a live event is dying out fullstop. Its like the cinema ..you can slash prices as much as you like ..deals etc but theres no real interest because what you want to watch is readily available elsewhere.

16 hours ago, K-Hod said:

It is good. They should just get like gigs and add a barcode in an email to save printing.

Yep and scan your phone like you can at the airport.

18 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

He got Middlesbrough promoted.

Apologies Ace ..he did indeed !

31 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

That is of course the worry but for me its not a reason for keeping Mowbray. Also now could be a good time to make the change because going of their last 3 appointments the only qualification you need is to have been promoted from this league and at the moment their are some good managers about who have that qualification I'm thinking of the like of Jokanovic, Wagner and Karanka. 

Wouldn't touch Karanka  always conflict with club owners !

(and hes never gained a promotion either )

I think its going to take more than a change of formation to evolve our style of play ..its going to cost money. 

The players we have in certain positions now are simply not good enough to play a more ..footballing ..expansive style of play . Its there to see. 

If we want to compete consistently and be up in the top six positions next season better class of players are going to be required and that would be my main concern is whether we d have the funds to actually buy these players...regardless of whos the manager.

At the moment we are a very mid table side ..which the majority on here thought we would be equating  into a  decent season on our return to the Championship. To go to the next level is going to take some big  funding in my eyes.

29 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Recruitment is a problem and there are suggestions we appoint a Director of Recruitment. 

I think it's clear Mowbray doesn't have enough contacts and after the ludicrously expensive Brereton debacle why on earth should we trust his judgement.  Overall, I think his player trading is poor with too many Harts, Gladwins and Joe Averages.

Some suggestions in this thread Venus and Lowe should be replaced.  It was Mowbray who appointed them in their roles, and sees their day to day work, so yet again I would question his judgement.

Defensively, we had problems when Big Sam joined.  Seem to recall Sam being asked about a defensive coach and he replied something along the lines 'that's my job, I'll sort it'.  For crying out loud, Mowbray was a decent central defender yet he seems hopeless about organising our back four which I think I am correct in saying has conceded more away goals than any other team (other than Ipswich)  in the Championship with only three other teams have conceded more goals overall.

I look at our team and think:

• Are we physically and mentally fit.  IMO, nearly every team we meet seem better.  Look at how many late goals we concede.
• Is there an identity / structure / style to our play.  I think in the main, our football has been dire over the last two years - hoof, hoof and more hoof
• Are we getting the most out of our available players.  I think we see too many square pegs in round holes and Mowbray's favourites also being 'squeezed in'.  I can't see any consistency in selection.
• Are we progressing as a team.  I don't think we are.  There have been some shocking performances (M'boro, Preston and Wigan come readily to mind).  All teams get beat but it is the manner of defeat that matters and, worryingly, I think we have been abysmal too many times - IMO, that first half against M'boro was as bad as the Kean / C o y l e days

Mowbray inherited a tough situation from C o y l e and to get relegated on goal difference was galling after the points we lost from winning and drawing positions due to, IMO, Mowbray's game management.

Okay, Mowbray got us back but I think it was despite him and not because of him.  We were the best resourced club in a pi$$ poor League One and at times, I think we got out of jail given the very poor quality of the opposition.  

IMO, there's no mileage in giving Mowbray another window or seeing where we are come October / November next season.  IMO, there is little evidence to suggest Mowbray can take us any further and he should be replaced.

 

Sorry Merce ..cant agree with this bit of your post. If Mowbray was at fault for taking us down by one goal  then he must get credit for getting us promotion. You don't just get lucky and amass 96 points with only 6 losses all season regardless of which league you are in with a manager who has no influence. It simply doesn't happen.

If history says in your eyes Mowbray took us down then history also says Mowbray took us up.

Sunderland will be romping it then this season …?

Just now, Fraserkirky said:

No mate

Says event hasn’t started yet. Fucking fuming

sent you a message..

2 in the last three games ..just to keep us guessing throughout the summer on this thread ….Good un or Bad un ..?

Just now, Hasta said:

Don't know as I went. You may be right as it was an early kick off.  

Still doesn't negate the point.

 

Not trying to negate the point just saying the game was on tv and available. 

I also went too and yes an early KO.

1 minute ago, Hasta said:

Swansea and Stoke. Both not on TV.

???

Was the Swansea game not on BBC Wales ? 

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

Erm @JeffRover mentioned him. ?

And so he did ?

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

Ask @JeffRover ?

Erm you said Redknapp?

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

So we won't improve then unless we do a Redknapp? 

Whats Redknapp got to do with what most clubs do to hopefully progress ?