Having now seen every apearence that Ben as played i can honestly say the lad as something without doubt and what i see is a lad that is trying to hard .. Anyone who as played at a semi pro level or full pro level will see what is happening with him,he panicks to the point were he is not being natural also not helping with him playing out of his prefered postion ,you make mistakes you move away from your natural instincts just to get a touch of the ball and get some confidence in my opinion once he gets that goal be it off his arse in to the net or his shin it's going to be a big lift for him....He knows the fans expect (especialy with the price tag) not his doing but it's there .We saw his sense of humor come through at Brentford when he was warming up having pot shots at goal and every time it was his turn the Rovers fan were egging him on to a go old roar when he scored he did it 3 times scored all three on on all ocassions he gave a big grin towards the Rovers fans followed by the other Rovers players encouraging him ...One thing i personaly have noticed with him is his heading game or lack off,just does not apear to have any coaching on that side of his game...

Bell cannot defend ....

That should have been 1-0 what a awful pass from Armstrong

Sad day indeed i spent many late night discussions with him regarding football when i was in my late twenties a lovely man he was and his wife was also very down to earth...

I certainly remember that season as i played in the Rovers schoolboy team hoping to try and get in the reserves at the time...A bad knee injury cut of any pro route i may have ventured in to ,i was freindly with one of Jim smiths daughter for a while who would have been around 16 at the time,sure they lived near the woodlands area .

Is Jack Rodwell on his way out ?

I watched him a couple of times at Rochdale the last match was against Doncaster when i was sat with a Doncaster scout never stood out to me and i actualy think he was subbed as well ...

Well worth the 10 hour journey to the Den and back as said by most who watched not the best of games but TM got his tacticts bang on.We doubled up on them with their head tennis game kept it tight then hit them ...3 points and a nice journey home through the city centre enjoying the sights.

Maybe TM as been reading this .. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/4928166/Size-really-does-matter-at-least-in-football-claim-scientists.html

I remember that match like it was yesterday some games just stick in thermemory

Beating posh at home on that Thursday night ,to me that win said we were going up.. Doncaster was certainly a high and a one of the happiest journeys home i have had for a while..Lows were the Southend defeat as i have family down there and it was not a good evening in the one of the town restaurants..

That as well.......

If i was still playing and played in that first half with Armstrong he would be getting a mouthful of me at half time ...

When the lad starts and completes x amount of games only then will i compare him to Chris Brown

Stiil got to be in the postition to miss them either way

He looked like a player who knew were he wanted the ball putting.Not his fault if is team mates don't see it.

Great point and a good comparison with the mentioned players..Atko and Tim sherwood worked realy well togethere with Atko not always getting the credit he deserved . He had a great engine and never gave less than 100%

This i 100% agree with and hopefuly TM will finaly see that it aint working ..

BB is a striker and that was considered is postion while at Forest although not considered to be a prolific goal scorer a lot of that was put down to Mike Warburton playing him basicaly as a right winger ...Personaly i have not seen enough of him to base a full opinion but i am sure he is more of a natural forward man than what we put up front at the start of the game yesterday ..

N i think is behind the goal

Got my tickets a couple of days after they went on sale to 1875 members ..I am in Block P and if i recal the next to go are N M L K Thats would be left to right as you behind the goal

That as to be one of the worse journeys i have had for an away match for a long time setting off at 11.00am and not getting to my hotel until 6.00pm .. So glad i was stopping over as i was shattered ,anyway on the match i thought the game started like a friendly and Swansea were very poor and it was pretty obvious the second half had to see a better performance from them,which it did ...Swansea had there bit of luck with the ball going in off Raya but thats the way it goes and if Dack's effort which produced a good safe had gone in we could have been looking at a point ..But not to be ..I don't dissect a game to much but i am a little confused in TM playing BB in the wide -striker role the lad as talent and and from what i seen from him last night(and what i have seen from him previously) .....All i can think of isTM he is experimenting for some reason one never knows ... So it's off to WBA next who have a top home record and have scored quite a few at home this season and on a posotive note this will feel like a home match as it's only a couple of hours away ..

Just had a quick look on the Swansea web site for a bit of info for away fans Swansea fans are passionate about their club and this can make for an intimidating atmosphere. Exercise caution around the ground Sounds like they are a nice bunch..

Well i can say there will be at least 3 of us then knocking around the centre from dinner time onwards. Swansea as to be one of the cheapest places i have found for guest houses,loads of choice and with no work the day after it makes sense for me to make a day of it..Looking forward to it now especialy after the Leeds result ..

As this kind offer been taken up if not having a car park spot sorted would save me rushing around and setting off on my journey to pick up my nephew and then get to match for the early kick off ..