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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
No, I believe like some others that the Venkys era is gradually coming to its end. Sell the club by all means , but please, administration is the absolute worst of all possibilities for the club and it's staff. -
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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I would imagine the dozens and dozens of staff who would lose their jobs as a consequence, through no fault of their own, would disagree with you. Mortgages to pay, families to feed , but hey-ho, tough shit. -
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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I'm done on here for the foreseeable future, just sick to the back teeth of non stop criticism and abuse at anything and everything to do with the club. -
2024/25 Season Tickets
Tugayisgod replied to TheRevAshton's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Didn't they do that last season ? No reason not too this season as well if sales are going fairly well -
Jon Dahl Tomasson - Sweden coach
Tugayisgod replied to Tom's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Fair point, presumably Scott Wharton will be in there doing his rehab as well -
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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Just for clarity, the Nixon article doesn't say Fleck is training with Rovers, how can he when we haven't reported back yet. -
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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Fair enough ๐ Just think people have short memories some times. The guy was immense for us in his first season and deservedly won player of the season Yes, his form dipped last season after picking up a bad injury, but to write him off at this stage is foolish to me. Let him get a good pre season under him and see what next season brings -
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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I'd love you to say that to his face, I think he'd fancy his chances -
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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Joe Taylor is a good shout , did well on loan last season and could maybe be used in a Gallagher swap deal if Luton are still interested in him. Also looks similar in style to Szmodics if he were to leave, but looks quicker -
Welcome to the Wharton age Introducing Adam Wharton: the low-socked Blackburn prodigy on growing up, his developing England career, and how Busquets and Frenkie shape his Adam Wharton is just 19. Heโs tall, his head is shaven, his words are soft and well-measured. When we ask, he insists his media training has not been too intense - but you can still feel a gravity to his words. He speaks with the care of a young person who understands every sentence could be picked apart. Thatโs not to say he is defensive or reserved. In fact, as we chat over lunch, the opposite reveals itself to be true: Adam is expressive and well spoken. Of course, weโre sitting with his agent, James Featherstone, in the headquarters of his agency, OmniSports - a decadent industrial building ten minutes from Manchester Piccadilly - so his safety net is obvious. Upstairs is a recording studio complete with a well-stocked bar and signed pictures of David Bowie. As we introduce ourselves, the conversation dances casually around: we speak of the World Cup in Qatar and living around the corner from his training ground and his favourite trainers and what weโd ordered for lunch (Tom was very proud to order the same salad as the professional athlete) and any concerns about the teenagerโs affability faded. We met Adam late in December, as the rest of the world was preparing to rest. No such respite is offered to footballers, no matter how young. I ask Adam how he feels about Christmas as a professional; with Boxing Day games a regular fixture, most managers still hold training on Christmas Day. โExcept [Tony] Mowbray,โ he says. โMowbray never did.โ Unfortunately for the prospect of a full roast dinner, Tony Mowbray left Blackburn Rovers, Whartonโs current and childhood club, in May 2022. He was replaced by Jon Dahl Tomasson, a decorated ex-player and young coach with big ideas. Since Tomassonโs arrival, Wharton has become a key member of Blackburnโs first team. Heโs made 25 appearances in the league this season, received his England U-20โs debut, and even made the SCOUTED50 list of the worldโs most exciting young players, an accolade of which weโre sure heโs most proud. Heโs an all-action, low-socked midfielder and heโs drawing serious attention from across Europe. But thatโs not a discussion for our Christmas-time meet. After lunch we move upstairs to a boxy, glass-walled room overlooking a dreary parking lot. As we discussed Tomasson, Whartonโs upbringing, his burgeoning England career and much else, the sun broke its cover and washed through the room. For most of that hour, it hardly felt like December at at all โPlaying anywhere and everywhere,โ Wharton says, when we ask about his earliest football memories. โI had two older brothers so I was always kicking about with them, in the garden, at school, for my local club, and then I joined Blackburnโs under six team. Thatโs all I wanted to do. โI got in through my brother (Scott Wharton) who joined a bit later, at under-12 level. After he signed they asked him โhave you got any brothers?โ So I started going once a week, on a Friday after school, and I never looked back. Iโve known Blackburn basically my whole life.โ Within sporting families, the success of older siblings can place unwarranted pressure on the youngerโs shoulders. We tiptoed around this theory but the teenager chose his words carefully - and not just to avoid an extra kick in training. โOf course there were elements of friendly competition to our relationship but I was just happy to see him make it, and Iโm sure he was the same for me,โ Wharton explains. โIt was never about me feeling pressure or needing to match my brother. โIt definitely helped with him being older, seeing him develop through the academy and what you needed to be successful. Itโs a little bit different because heโs a defender but I always looked up to him There is something undeniably romantic about an academy graduate breaking through after years of education and refining, but Whartonโs case feels notably different. Adam is a local lad in every sense - he lives five minutes away from Blackburnโs training ground in Brockhall Village and has spent effectively three quarters of his life with the club - which makes his success that bit more special. โI think my first game was in 2008,โ he recalls with squinted eyes to recall the moment. โI was a mascot with Danny Simpson against Chelsea. I would have been four at the time, unfortunately they lost 2-0 on the day but guys like Roque Santa Cruz, Benni McCarthy, Chris Samba, Ryan Nelsen and Paul Robinson definitely made an impact on me. โObviously being in the academy so early, we would see the (first team) players once a year and I remember meeting Chris Samba. Somewhere thereโs a picture of me getting my boots signed by him, and another with my mum where his head is basically cut out of the picture because he was so tall and I was tiny. โHe was doing his coaching badges with the club a year or two ago and I showed him that picture which definitely made him feel old. But itโs lovely to have those memories and of course, it does inspire you as a young player to succeed.โ The Blackburn of those times was very different: they were a hardened, physical side who became Premier League furniture under Mark Hughes and later Sam Allardyce. Fast forward fifteen years and the Lancashire club have taken a different approach to both squad building and playing, honed on the unforgiving battlegrounds of the Championship. Rovers continue to field some of the youngest starting line-ups in the second tier (their average age of 23.6 years is sandwiched between Sunderland (22.6) and Leeds United (24.0) as the second-youngest in the league) under Jon Dahl Tomasson, which Wharton believes is helping the club establish an important sense of identity The likes of Harry Leonard (20), Andrew Moran (20), James Hill (22) and Tyrhys Dolan (22) have all played important roles at Ewood Park this season. Since we spoke to Wharton, 15-year-old Rory Finneran became Blackburnโs youngest-ever player when he came off the bench during a FA Cup third-round win over Cambridge United in January. โItโs definitely a good thing,โ Wharton says of the youth-centric approach. โYou can probably see it throughout the season, at times you will need experienced heads to help see you through games or crucial moments, but otherwise itโs great to feel part of a young squad thatโs learning together and pulling in the same direction. โEspecially with the way the gaffer wants us to play now, expansive, playing out from the back like most teams do, we can maybe adapt to those methods a bit quicker as weโve been brought up in a different way. โEven for younger players coming into the first team set up, I think it helps their integration because they are coming into a group that they can relate to, as well as us being able to relate to them. Even for me, last year I was in and out of the team, but this year I really feel part of the team, part of the dressing room. The 19-year-old made his senior debut under Tomasson in August 2022. But it was Tony Mowbray, an experienced manager with a strong reputation for developing young players, who first involved him with the first-team setup. Two years ago, Mowbray even labelled Wharton and Ashley Phillips (now at Tottenham) the โfuture of the clubโ. โThe first few times I trained with the first team was under Tony Mowbray, a couple of years ago as a second year scholar (U-18s). I remember feeling shy, I wasnโt really demanding the ball in training, I just wanted to get through everything without making a mistake. โBut once youโve been there for a few sessions your personality can come out, you feel more comfortable and thatโs when you start showing everyone what youโre about. Whether itโs scoring a goal, or snapping into a tackle, you need a moment that people take notice of, otherwise you can drown in that environment. โEven though I havenโt spent a huge amount of time with the first team myself, I feel like Iโm in a position where I can really help those guys coming through and making that transition, because itโs not easy and Iโve experienced it myself, how useful it can be having someone in your corner. โI remember Tyrhys Dolan coming over to me when I first came up, just to have a chat and tell me he was around if I needed anything - that makes a big difference. Those who have watched Wharton play will instantly be drawn to his languid style and cultured left foot (because as we know, only left-footed players can be cultured). But there is a straightforward, British charm to his appearance that almost belies his technique - buzzed head, low socks and more often than not, black boots - which depict the midfielderโs style quite accurately. Only eight Championship midfielders played more progressive passes per 90 (7.6, per FBRef) than the teenager last season, which highlights his penchant for fizzing balls through the lines and although those numbers have dipped slightly this term, he still sits in the 90th percentile for both progressive passing distance and passes into the penalty area among positional peers across the division. โA lot depends on the way your team plays,โ he explains. โMidfield roles can be so different based on what your manager, or your team wants to achieve. I used to play more as a number ten, sitting just off the striker when I was younger and I actually preferred playing there, but you see a lot less of the ball. โWhen you do get the ball, you can be more effective and play those killer passes, your contributions are more obvious, so thatโs what I enjoyed about that role. When you play deeper - especially with the way teams play nowadays - you are responsible for more during build up which is a different kind of pressure. โYou need to be brave on the ball, you have to demand it from your centre-halves, but that also means you are pressed more intensely with teams wanting higher turnovers. You have to be more progressive in your passing, you can see the pitch from another viewpoint and naturally, that affects the way you play.โ After signing a new five-year deal in December, Tomasson claimed that Wharton was โChampions League level on the ballโ whilst simultaneously acknowledging there were still improvements to be made off it. But beware the wolf in number tenโs clothing; there is a steel and tenacity to the teenager who has clearly embraced the physical side of being a midfielder in the second tier. Only Sondre Tronstad (2.9) averages more tackles per 90 than Wharton (2.4) for Blackburn this season, whose reading of the game continues to impress in a deep block - where his technique is patient and precise, to help stab the ball away at crucial moments - and also in transition where crunching recovery tackles have become increasingly regular in his game. โHonestly you wouldnโt believe how many times Iโve been told that,โ he says with a puff of his cheeks as we repeat Tomassonโs comments - you could almost feel his apathy on the subject. โItโs always great to hear compliments like that from your manager but of course, there are two sides to the game. It was something I heard all throughout my academy life, that I didnโt work hard enough out of possession, the classic number ten. โThe higher up you go, your margin for error basically disappears. Every time you switch off, every time youโre a second late to track a runner - that can be punished. But itโs something Iโve really tried to work on since making the move up (to first-team football) and I think Iโve got a lot stronger out of possession. โEven on the ball, thereโs so much for me to improve on. Whether itโs the timing of my passing, the intention of my passing, you never stop. Iโve never been somebody who gets ahead of themselves. So what is his favourite position? โI donโt really have a preference,โ he says, evading our leading questions like a sharp turn away from pressure. โI like to play deeper, I like to play further up, but I can also thrive in a more box-to-box role. Iโm happy to play anywhere as long as I can affect the game.โ โThis might sound weird, but I love wrapping passes through to the number ten so they can turn and drive at the defence - maybe more than a goal or an assist. Because I was a number ten myself, I can appreciate how difficult those passes are to make, but also how valuable they can be; especially if youโre being found between the lines.โ Inspiration comes in many forms when youโre a football-crazed kid. Growing up, my socks were always pulled above my knees to imitate Thierry Henry. Every playground goal was crowned with a Shaka sign, because thatโs how Ronaldinho celebrated on Revista de La Liga. Wharton may have grown up in a slightly different era but his judgement still gets our seal of approval. โI wouldnโt say thereโs someone I have directly drawn inspiration from,โ he claims. โI like to watch a lot of different players and add aspects of their game to mine, which makes you a more rounded player in the long run. โObviously I love watching Lionel Messi but Iโm sure everyone does. Frenkie de Jong too, I really like how he plays. Sergio Busquets manages to make everything look so simple with one or two touches but itโs so effective - I think Rodri at Manchester City would probably be a more current comparison. โMore casual watchers of the game probably wonโt realise how much players like Busquets or Rodri affect the game, or how valuable they are. Thatโs why I like to take different bits from lots of top players, but Iโm my own player in my own way - and thatโs just as important.โ But football isnโt always about fulfilling your dreams. According to research conducted by the English FA in 2015, only three percent of players recruited by Premier League academies (under the age of ten) go on to make top-flight appearances, with 70 percent not even receiving professional contracts across all four divisions. Wharton was one of the lucky few to push through the glass ceiling but his wasnโt an overnight success. Years of hard work and sacrifice went into forging his path, even with the knowledge that everything could be snatched away in a moment. โBecause Iโve been involved in football from such a young age, itโs difficult for me to see the negative side,โ the midfielder explains. โBut Iโve never really lived a normal life. Every day since I was young, football has been on my mind. โI always enjoyed it so much that I never really considered the things I was missing out on. But it does require sacrifice which can be difficult as youโre growing up, especially during your teenage years when you canโt really go out or socialise with your friends. โBut to me - that is normal. If other people were told they couldnโt go out on the weekend, but instead get up at 7am on a Sunday morning to travel to Birmingham or wherever for a game, Iโm not sure they would be too happy. Itโs all about perspective.โ โA huge amount of time and effort goes into pursuing this career, not just from the players but their families too. Many people wouldnโt be prepared to make the changes needed to succeed, but I always felt ready to do that.โ โMaking sacrifices is one thing, but what gets overlooked is how brutal football can be. Youโre under constant evaluation and circumstances out of your control - injuries, style of play, even how your coach is feeling on the day - really impact on your chance of making it. โI didnโt concern myself with that too often because I think it can affect your game. There were some difficult moments as a first year scholar (U-17s) because I barely played. I had some injuries, I wasnโt making the team, I must have played three or four 90 minutes all season. โThat was the first time I thought, โwhat if this doesnโt go to plan?โ and things donโt work out for me here. Thankfully the season after, I stayed injury free and everything improved from there.โ Curious to learn more about Adam the person, we ask what occupies his time away from football and the training ground. Naturally your mind jumps to a million-and-one things within reach of a young man with the world at his feet, but his answer was firmly in keeping with somebody laid back, low key and with their feet on the ground. โI do like playing golf. Maybe not so much now when itโs like this outside,โ Wharton says with a chuckle, gesturing with his eyes as Storm Pia hurls rain towards the roomโs glass windows. The sun has long since disappeared. โOtherwise Iโm quite easy going, I like to watch movies, I like gaming although I donโt play as much as I used to. Things can be so intense at football, so itโs nice to be at home and relax with friends and family.โ With the rain worsening and a long, dreaded trip back to London still ahead of us, we move to wrap things up - and throw some quick-fire questions Adamโs way. Whoโs the best player heโs played with? โI would probably say Cole Palmer or Rico Lewis,โ he tells us, after pausing briefly for thought. โBoth of them are doing incredible things this season.โ We point out that older brother Scott didnโt make the cut. That solicits another smile, although Wharton insists he wouldnโt take the omission personally. The next answer requires considerably less thinking - who would he most like to play with? โMessi, easy. Next question.โ We finish by asking the teenager for one piece of advice that has stuck with him throughout his life - whether from a teammate, senior player, coach or any other influential figure. โSingling out one piece of advice is difficult,โ he says. โSomething Iโve been told a lot is not to waste what Iโve got, or the opportunities Iโve been given because I didnโt work hard enough. โItโs all about squeezing what you can out of your experiences and making the most of everything, and thatโs something which has clicked for me in the last couple of year Clear throughout our conversation is the pride with which Wharton talks about Blackburn. Almost every answer includes an anecdote or reference to the club, and his desperation to succeed feels tangible; as if you could stretch out and grab it with both hands. So when we finally press him on his aspirations in the game, we were hardly surprised by his answer. โIโve already achieved one huge dream by playing for Blackburn,โ he stresses, leaning forward with genuine authenticity. โI would love to get promoted too. I think we share that determination as a collective, which would obviously be a huge source of pride for me and my family. โOur objective is definitely to be in and around there (the play-off positions) come the end of the season. The Championship is a tough league, itโs draining, you play a lot of games and obviously after last season where we missed out on goal difference - even the season before we were close - we want to go one step further this time around.โ A difficult six-week period over Christmas and New Year means Blackburn currently sit 18th in the Championship with 19 games left to play, but stranger things have happened in this league. There is a natural frustration at how recent results have transpired, coupled with an arguably more important conviction in how the club continues to operate both on and off the pitch. Wharton finds himself at the centre of a storm for his boyhood club but there was never any suggestion to us he was overwhelmed. In fact, the teenager seemed to welcome that responsibility. And if this young Blackburn side are to navigate such choppy waters, they will need their academy product pulling the strings - with his socks pulled low and his passes sharp. Weโd like to extend a heartfelt thank you to OmniSports, Yugansh Agarwal, James Featherstone, Blackburn Rovers and, of course, Adam himself for allowing us to interview one of our favourite emerging talents. 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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Seeing things are a bit quiet at the moment, just thought I'd put a couple of names out there that would be good signings Omari Forson and Shola Shoretine at Utd both look they will be allowed to leave having turned down contracts. Not sure what wage demands would be for a couple of youngsters but both good players -
Yeah, in hindsight it's very easy to say we "gave him away" as some people are saying. Wharton's transfer was the biggest of the domestic January window, and although it's no surprise he's moved to a different level again these past few months (we knew he would), it was a decent price for a championship player having played less than 50 games. He will undoubtedly move again before too long when we should also benefit from a big sell on fee
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We all knew he was destined for big things but you are right, he wouldn't have got the recognition he has now if he was still with us. Playing regularly with better players at Palace in the Premier League and now with England, he can be anything he wants.
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When he first got into the Rovers team he would occasionally get caught on the ball and lose it, but he has learnt so much in the last 18 months or so it's frightening how good he is going to be. 100% pass success rate tonight
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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
There was also this one, a week before ticket details were released and most people expected a slight increase. I'm a bit sceptical of some itks on here, but this guy certainly me makes you wonder... -
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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I didn't think the window even opened for another couple of weeks, yet Rotherham have signed 7 players! Maybe if they are all free agents they can sign at anytime ? -
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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Fair enough, just frustrated that it looks like he may be moving on. There were rumors Tyjon may be happy to stay, certainly hope so. It's just that clubs like Rovers are vulnerable until they sign pro deals. Luckily Atcheson has signed his pro deal so we do have some protection with him at least -
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Tugayisgod replied to RoversClitheroe's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Ok, but Wharton is an exception as he is a Rovers fan and obviously happy to develop at his boyhood club. No doubt would have been happy to stay at the club longer also as he didn't push for a move. Other players like Finneran don't have the same allegiance and for them it's more a question of knowing your chances of first team football are better here, or take the money and move to a bigger club where your chances will be limited.