Get them played!! All of em imo!!

Thanks mate. Is that after the Fulham match?

I don’t think the gaffer has any choice mate. If the numbers are right then it’s that or we’re knackered! ?

Based on what you have said, Had I known I would’ve been praying we didn’t sign anyone! We need to get the young lads playing and playing well before the summer. Thats the only way we will reduce operating costs and therefore losses and provides the best opportunity to sell one or two of them in the summer. Early in Jan I told you that there were big clubs sniffing around Bucko. I knew this because there is a strong feeling around the players and coaches that the new trend for big clubs is to buy very young players for seven or eight figures, develop and play them then sell them. The likes of Sancho started this trend and Milan’s £10m bid for Robinson Is even more proof. The more I think of it, I think Bucko was played in December to entice those clubs into a big bid. Unfortunately he didn’t take that chance in December and therefore a bid was never going to happen. But Rovers success at youth and u23 level is not going unnoticed by the big clubs.

Woah. That’s eye watering. So literally the only way we will get through next season without triggering FFP would be to generate £16m profit in the next 12 months through player sales? When is the consultation meeting?

Shit happens in life. But we have a choice in how to deal with it. I’d take Chaddy’s positive outlook on life everyday over being negative.

Ok, thank you. So I guess the quality of those summer signings depend hugely on the develeopment of JRC, Bucko, Butterworth, Fisher, Hilton, Thompson etc which could mean we need 5 instead of 8? A decent sale would help too... I know what I’d be doing if I were Mowbray. I’d be giving JRC, Buckley, Hilton, Butterworth and Thompson time on the pitch. If three of them can impact the first team similarly to Travis and one maybe star for us. It will create a much easier summer and potentially a big sale.

Ahh...fair enough. In that case we’re potentially over that £26m run rate and worries that we wouldn’t be able to trade freely in the summer when it is much easier. Thanks for the info. The summer is BIG, HUGE! Imo a lot of the recruitment depends on the progress of JRC, Buckley, Thompson, Butterworth, Hilton, Fisher etc and whether they can prove their worth to the team like Travis has. If they can then the volume of signings needed will reduce and the quality / cost increase.

I was thinking the same!! ??

Top man Chaddy. There’s a lot to be said about positive mindsets mate. Hope you enjoyed your night.

I might be wrong here but isn’t there also a rule that you cannot lose more than £13m per year (and £39m over a three year period)? If so then at £26m, there really wasn’t any wriggle room without sales and / or releasing wages via loans etc to make any signings in Jan?

Ok, thanks. So maybe the V’s £5m contribution each year brings those operating losses from say £12m down to £7m and so over the two seasons (18/19 & 19/20) we have lost £14m plus the £12m net that @J*B referred to which would put us on £26m over two years and bang on track. So theoretically, with a third of our earners out of contract in the summer and should the likes of JRC, Buckley, Thompson etc break through then we should have a healthy-ish budget to trade in the operating losses plus some money (£6m) to spend on fees? As long as V’s are willing to pump in another £5m...

We must have spent more than that because ffp allows losses upto £39m over 3yrs which would mean we have a £27m limit moving into 20/21 season? If so, then there’s an opportunity to go big in the summer, right?

I’ve not seen much of Thompson tbh. Is he going to be good enough??

Grow up will you. No manager is going to refuse to spend money and risk getting the sack. I specifically asked what the situation is around ffp.

I feel like it must be coming from Waggot. If they asked Venkys (who likely do no know or care about ffp), they’d prob just cough up. I don’t blame them If we are so perilous. But I’d just like to know where we really stand with it. If anyone knows?

He does have money to spend...and if he wants more he only has to ask them! That’s the point I’m making...and why I was asking questions re ffp

The players and staff talk about contract extensions, raises, budgets for the new analysis suite etc etc...the general feeling is that Venkys will always sign off the expenditure. No issues...

Maybe...

I’m not bullish. It’s not my opinion it’s been the consensus among the players and staff for years. I don’t take any joy or upset either way. Just passing real info on.

I don’t know the numbers, I don’t know any of the finer details. But I know (from players and staff) that Venkys don’t refuse to spend. I don’t know why Mowbray doesn’t spend. Maybe FFP? Maybe Waggots decision?

Johnson in for Rothwell and Downing out left. Leutwiler, Bennett, Williams, Davenport, JRC, Chapman, Graham.

@J*B you seem to have a pretty clear idea on ffp. How close are we to the limit? How will that effect the summer bearing in mind a third of the current player expenditure (wages) are set to be out of contract? Will be able to spend back up to that mark? Will sales be necessary? If nothing else, this window shows that we are VERY concerned with FFP. Absolutely no way have Venkys completely ruled out any spending.

Bloody hell...looks like @Sparks Rover was right about Ben Whiteman after all! Can’t believe he’s turned Brucey down like this...???

Just seen Eddie Howes interview. Looks like the King deal is very likely!