As far as I can see, Waggot explained that the owners are willing to invest but that ffp is the stumbling block. The calmness I’m talking about is the lack of restriction generally. The frustration is that but for ffp, Venkys would Bank roll a playoff push.

I don’t think it’s as tight as is being painted Joe. Some will go from that list this month and by my reckoning, a third of the budget will be free for reinvestment in the summer when contracts / loan periods end. As I intimated a couple of weeks ago, the club is relaxed and Venkys happy to spend. FFP is the only stumbling block. May end up being pleasantly surprised by the end of the window.

I’m not trying to bash anyone mate. People can’t help the way they feel. It’s just sad, as you said.

I have to disagree. Football is game between opposing teams where supporters attend matches to support their teams. The end. TV and now the internet improved and increased coverage so that people could support from afar but when you boil it down, the whole point of a supporter is to support the team. This action is performed at the game.

You are absolutely right Stuart. There are so many out there with opinions who’ve ‘been there and seen it all’. The owners should do this, the players should do that. But imo, words are cheap. People are the sum of their actions and the actions of many past supporters show that they no longer care. Venkys set off a chain of destruction and pain for us but, time is a healer. There are several clubs who have had it as bad if not worse than us and managed to retain a loyal fan base. I’m not sure what the answer is. Maybe we’ve found our level and the previously higher attendances were a symptom of our successes in the 90’s Selling 345 half season tickets during our best run of the season proves the lack of current interest. Very sad

It would of course depend on the structure of the payments too. £2m paid over the lifespan of a 4yr contract would be more palatable...

??? Sadly, you can’t put owt, where there is nowt! Assuming your username is a nod to Roy Wegerle? Loved that guy. He was u10’s managers favourite player. Always referenced him during team talks...?

It’s the new big thing. Lots of clubs looking for potential in teenagers now. Pay £10-20m and see if it works out. If it doesn’t, you write off the payment. If it does, you double the value instantly in the PL. Interesting how much foreign eyes are on English players. The word is out that England is the place to pick up prospects, develop them and then sell them back for a premium.

Maybe pal, but apparently not those saying Mols is better than Buckley. ?

As above. I haven’t seen Mols but I’ll take the opinion of a professional over those on here. ??

I haven’t. It was in reference the conversation I noted above. Thought it was weird that he was so good when no one else really talks about him.

Oh dear. ?

Not sure why Grayson and Mols are being compared if Mols is a CM. Grayson is a CB by trade.... Your opinion is pretty much as it’s seen. Asked about Mols. “Yeah, he’s decent. Has some potential and will play” Me “He better than Bucko” cue laughing.. “Mate, noooooo...not on the same planet! Who said that?” I didn’t answer and changed the subject. There’s the opinion of someone who actually is in elite football ?

This.

Just opinions mate. The coaches see different things in players than fans. They work with them every day. Weird that Mols hasn’t been mentioned though...especially with the focus on young lads at Rovers. Maybe I missed that one..

Sorry, but I don’t understand this point you’re making mate. The best players in eyes of the coaches and professionals are naturally worth more because the demand is for the best players, not the steady ones. Its how good they are which actually drives the price. Interesting, Mols has never been mentioned to me. Not saying he isn’t good. There’s lots of good lads.

Not seen Mols. How old is he?

Of course mate. All comes down to what people are willing to pay for potential. No doubt lots fail. young players go for 7 and 8 figure sums at the top level and never make it....for every Damian Duffs there are 10 Jason Lowes...but if you get it right...there are huge rewards.

Not sure how he’s doing... Usually money. It’s not uncommon for young lads in the PL to be paid £15k pw. That might be 10x what a John Buckley or JRC is getting at Rovers. Secures them financially....could you turn down a 10x raise? ??

Haha - of course his potential, ability, value won’t be inflated by whispers. It’s the opinions of professional people which does that. We will see ??

I don’t watch them much tbh. That’s just what they think. Often is the case that fans have a different opinion to coaches / professionals. I guess they have a wider lense in which to judge rather than Just a match day. But I accept your opinion. JRC is very highly regarded too. I wouldn’t want to lose either in Jan.

It’s something which went on for years. Squashed by the likes of Barca who realised that top players don’t need to be beasts physically. Cant believe the Bryan Robson one though! ????

Don’t get caught up in the moment Joe...there’s no doubt that JRC is very good. But whether you believe me or not, Buckley is the chosen one. He’s the one they and the big clubs like the most. I said it in the summer when most fans hadn’t even heard of him and the actions of the club so far have corroborated.

In 12 months, yeah I probably would mate. Dack will be another year on and trying to regain fitness and form. Whilst hopefully the likes of Buckley, JRC, Butterworth etc will be flying. There isn’t any part of you that thinks you might never see the Bradley Dack of the last few years again, after that injury? If ever there was a player destined to put weight on and live the good life it’s him. Hope I’m wrong.

I’m not sure. There are some big clubs looking but ultimately he has been found out physically this season. Most young players who come through and break into first teams have great physical prowess because it helps massively. Those who are less developed tend to have to wait. The clubs in question won’t care that Buckley needs time to develop. They are interested in the ability he has to run games as he has done throughout his career. I just hope we have him (and some of the others - Nyambe, JRC, Butterworth etc) long enough to see them at their peak at Rovers.