
Bethnal
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Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas
Bethnal replied to DuffsLeftPeg's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Again with the “one letter off nominative determinism” thing… you’ve a way with words. -
Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas
Bethnal replied to DuffsLeftPeg's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Your question was answered. It was to do with comments made by Waggott in his club interview. Not recent actions. If you want engagement with the club, the only route that’s currently viable is by agitating. The Trust has been a “critical friend” and received nothing but occasional head pats and “jam tomorrow” excuses. Glen had a meeting and Waggott prioritised that meeting. It’s not incumbent upon someone to itemise their life to you because you want to know everything that’s going on, but can’t seem to decide whether the owners or are a good thing or not. Your right to attend Rovers games is being eroded by the very people you’re sitting on the fence about. It won’t feel like it right now, but in the current direction of travel under the owners and the people they appoint to run the club in their absence, the club’s likelihood of surviving diminishes. I’m of the view that match-going fans have a right to express their dismay. Consensus is building that this situation is untenable and the dismay is justified. You may disagree. See how far you get with that. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll see that you want your cake and to eat it. You want the best for the club and to watch a game in peace (which every fan does) but don’t want to confront the reality that the best thing for the club and to watch a game in peace is to get rid of these owners. If the action required to initiate that upsets you, that’s unfortunate, but it doesn’t make it any less necessary. -
Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas
Bethnal replied to DuffsLeftPeg's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
three of your posts in 20 minutes undermining any point you’re trying to make and - along with your absence for a year - leading me to infer that you’re probably more pro-regime than your “what’s the alternative?” stance belies. It’s true, you didn’t know the ins and outs. You got the ins and outs, then dismissed them out of hand. You complain about a lack of transparency around a meeting that didn’t have anything to do with recent action, despite receiving information yourself from personal contacts at the club and not sharing that. Everyone has a right to agree or disagree with the current actions and question people involved with it, but being hypocritical, reactionary, argumentative and - frankly - ignorant, does make you look quite daft, in the end. -
Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas
Bethnal replied to DuffsLeftPeg's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
It’s been a form of protest in the past but fans should be mindful that entering the pitch without permission can result in a criminal record and a lifetime ban. I would encourage anyone considering it to remember who the hierarchy at the club are and whether they’d seize on the opportunity to permanently remove fans they deem to be “undesirables” or “troublemakers.” -
v Portsmouth (a) - 29/3/2025
Bethnal replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
They’ve only got 12 to choose from. -
v Portsmouth (a) - 29/3/2025
Bethnal replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Extremely straightforward day at the office for Portsmouth. Not many of them broke a sweat. If 149 candidates were worse than this, I’ll be staggered. -
v Portsmouth (a) - 29/3/2025
Bethnal replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
There’s no belief -
v Portsmouth (a) - 29/3/2025
Bethnal replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Warren Lucy discussing our record against newly-promoted sides, away from home: “the thing is it’s different players, different staff, different managers, different EVERYTHING” So close to working out the common denominator. -
v Portsmouth (a) - 29/3/2025
Bethnal replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Whatever you were doing was a better use of your time. -
v Portsmouth (a) - 29/3/2025
Bethnal replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
On this showing, Woodrow’s reputation is well-earned. -
v Portsmouth (a) - 29/3/2025
Bethnal replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Yeah, Billy Bremner gets a booking and a finger-wag for that, basically. -
v Portsmouth (a) - 29/3/2025
Bethnal replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Looked “an old-fashioned yellow card” on first viewing, to me -
v Portsmouth (a) - 29/3/2025
Bethnal replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
This manager doesn’t yet know what to do with this group of players. Very clear. -
Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas
Bethnal replied to DuffsLeftPeg's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Three points on Gestede: unconfirmed but he was having a pop at fans in the JW upper last home match, or so I read. He’s extremely under-qualified to be in the role, as the other two are, really. The reaction from other clubs’ fans speaks to why he’s a valid target. He pledged to be open, transparent and communicative with the fans when he was appointed and he’s done none of it. He’s not been here as long, but he’s fallen immediately into line with the other two, or so it seems. -
Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas
Bethnal replied to DuffsLeftPeg's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
You don’t get that rich without being a bit shady. -
Suhail Shaikh / Pasha / The Shadow Man
Bethnal replied to Upside Down's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
You don’t get him out. He latched himself onto Balaji many years ago, pivoting into operations roles within Venkys. Was clearly hooked by Kentaro and Anderson to pass along the acquisition opportunity to his bosses and just so happened to have the exact mixture or hubris, ego and anti-talent in Balaji to make the deal work. He is their envoy. He was entrusted with the overseeing the running of the club but wasn’t experienced enough for the EFL to be running the show himself, by which, I mean other owners, CEOs that you need to negotiate with. Waggott’s the one who calls up the three other owners/CEOs of football clubs who will actually take his calls to initiate negotiations etc. Suhail will very likely be the next CEO, as by that time he’ll have about ten years of experience. The move to COO this year, after Waggott’s pension contributions took a massive boost (rumoured to be a 100% increase in the current FY, yet to be filed), was conspicuous. Waggott’s on the verge of retirement. They have basically no idea what happens with the club, except what Pasha tells them. He is Wormtongue (though that’s giving far too much credit to Venkys). Occasionally, they send across their finance bods to review and have a look at the place, but to be fair to them, they’ve no idea what they’re looking at. He’s here as long as Venkys are here. Unless, of course, something changes that. The question is how much of a stomach either party has for whatever action the fanbase takes, although we can’t really get ourselves organised. So many fans don’t care about anything above the manager. -
Trust board members reading - I’ve rejoined, I’ve had virtually no contact other than the statement and a follow-up statement. I’ve no idea what your plan is and there is an overwhelming sense of apathy in the fanbase. There is a vacuum in the support and you’re not stepping in. When is your next meeting with members to discuss your approach, strategy and plans? How should members communicate with you? You spoke of wanting to communicate with supporters and raise the profile of your actions. Why have you remained silent since your statements? Let’s open up the communications, people want to engage with you and help, but you’ve given us nothing to go on.
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v Cardiff City (h) - 15/3/2025
Bethnal replied to simongarnerisgod's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Boos from the faithful 10k ring out but it’s falling on deaf ears. -
v Cardiff City (h) - 15/3/2025
Bethnal replied to simongarnerisgod's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I have absolutely no idea how I’m supposed to feel about the last two minutes -
v Cardiff City (h) - 15/3/2025
Bethnal replied to simongarnerisgod's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Cantwell has just played two of the worst passes you’ll see from a number 10 in about 20 seconds. Checked out, fully. Probably sulking about losing a starting berth but where the fuck is the justification for it? -
v Cardiff City (h) - 15/3/2025
Bethnal replied to simongarnerisgod's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Sensational work -
v Cardiff City (h) - 15/3/2025
Bethnal replied to simongarnerisgod's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I just had this conversation on the phone. I’m interested/intrigued but I kind of don’t give a shit? The season feels over, I don’t know who’s staying beyond the end of the season and the manager has had an… inauspicious start, let’s say. Difficult to get bothered over. -
v Cardiff City (h) - 15/3/2025
Bethnal replied to simongarnerisgod's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Same, but that most recent replay raises doubts. Not convinced either way, it’s very close. -
v Cardiff City (h) - 15/3/2025
Bethnal replied to simongarnerisgod's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
This is better. Balls going into the box, bit of purpose and urgency. Happier with this showing. Poor start has set us back, but something to build on. -
v Cardiff City (h) - 15/3/2025
Bethnal replied to simongarnerisgod's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Good header, poor defending from Cardiff. Why is Dennis losing his rag after making an assist?