Spot on. IMO, the numbers who don't attend simply because of the owners alone will rank in the dozens, not the thousands. Price and what's on the pitch are the overriding factors.

I'll go with 'pride' to add to that list.

That's pathetic of the club.

I wonder if Waggott has taken the time and trouble to reach out to the missing 1,000? To speak to his customers and do some research, perhaps? See what he can do to encourage them to sign up? Probably not. After all, he's met his financial target so he can rest easy.

There's an excuse for everything with Waggott. Whether it be players leaving, ticket prices, the state of the stadium.....there's always an excuse.

Rubbish. Ever heard of 'speculate to accumulate'? Perhaps he could try 'maximising financial profit' by increasing his customer base, thus increasing turnover and ultimately profit? That would be a novel approach to doing business, don't you think? Far more to gain by doing it that way, rather than squeezing every last drop out of diminishing customer numbers.

The fact that Waggot has stated that ST sales are 'above budget', it's clear that he's purely measured financially - by squeezing the remaining customer base - as opposed to being proactve and finding credible ways to increase bums on seats. Job done, in his world. How he's allowed to get away with it, is unfathomable. It'll be the same approach next season, no doubt. He'll cover the anticipated drop in revenue/churn with yet another price increase.

That's the team I think he'll go with too Chaddy, and is what I'd pick. 1-1 10,800

I'll be surprised in Burnley aren't top 6 at least. The biggest uncertainty is the manager; I think the remnants of their PL squad plus their new additions will be pretty strong.

Sloppy passing and miscontrol galore. Let's hope we can put it down to a lack of fitness and that we buck up for next week.

Crikey, that was dreadful

All this mention of reading up on sports science summaries etc is irrelvant to me. As an average punter, all I fundamentally care about is seeing progress on/off the pitch, how much I pay for it, and the standard of the facilities. To this end, Waggot is failing badly. It's that simple to me; I don't need to look into his eyes to form my opinion.

Waggott might be the most honest and well intentioned person on the planet. But if his actions fail, then he fails. That's what matters, not what his eyes look like.

My view is the total opposite. I judge people by their actions and the outcome of those actions, not by what they say they're going to do.

Always judge a person by their actions, not their words. The actions we've all seen include: players walking for nothing; a stadium falling into disrepair; ticketing catastrophes, and a botched attempt at flogging the training ground Until I see improvements with issues such as these, my opinion of him remains the same.

Barnes has been with the club since school. He's been captain of the U23s for 2 or 3 seasons, but lost most of last season due to injury. He was due to play the pre-season last time around, was rated by Mowbray and now seemingly by JDT. In terms of playing experience, he's ahead of Phillips by some way.

If you aren't going to relay to the board the answers Waggott gave you, then why did you even announce that you had a meeting with him? Willy waving, if you ask me.

I was talking to Jake Batty's parents at Accy. His season is with the U23s.

More worrying than Pickering, is that he isn't our biggest problem.

And Barnes

Ash Phillips has played the grand total of ELEVEN U23 league games. It amazes me how many people claim to have seen him play lots of games, and believe him to be the next Bobby Moore. Give the lad a chance.

Totally agree, but it has to be used sensibly. Throwing 3 or 4 straight into the first team team and crossing fingers and toes, is not sensible.

Ash Phillps has hardly played for the U23s, let alone to be relied upon for the hustle and bustle of a Championship season. That's fanciful thinking. He needs to be playing games, either with the U23's or being loaned out to gain experience to prove his potential. There's no point him hanging about our 1st team squad just to, at best, sit on the bench.

Spot on @Mercer. Those players you listed simply aren't good enough, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility that we'll be relying on some of them to start games. That would equal a relegation battle IMO.

If we don't, we'll go down.