Perhaps we're at cross purposes. The point I was trying to make was in response to the previous poster over his assertion that Mowbray has as 'excellent' record of player purchases. If indeed we are to credit Mowbray for Brereton et al - players who cost a lot of money - then by definition we should also credit the owners for affording the expenditure. The irony here is that the poster in question habitually criticises the owners, but yet does not credit them for their part in those signings. He's simply contradicted himself.

You're just caveating it to suit your narative. You think he has an excellent record at signing players for a fee. I think he has a mediocre/poor record when it comes to his overall transfer policy. Needless to say, the proof of the pudding is progress on the pitch, which after 5 years is nowhere.

...and the millions he's had over his whole tenure to fund wages, loans etc. I'm not saying that Mowbray hasn't pulled off some good deals. But to describe his transfer dealings as 'excellent' is - to steal another poster's noun - 'hyperbole'

What are you on about now?

By definition then, we should also applaud the owners for backing Mowbray financially to fund these deals, especially as Mowbray has not been forced to sell. All Hail Venkys, eh?

In my opinion, it's abysmal.

Of course, Mowbray may well have had some success in the transfer market. Where he's been abysmal though, is putting a team together, one that can win sufficient games and make progress. A manager can buy all the superstars in the world, but that's no use if he can't make a team out of them. After 5 seasons, an 11th place 'highlight' tells me enough about him.

I'm not saying that they would. If fact, I doubt very much that they would. I'm just saying, in answer to a previous question, that they could.

Not really. Make everyone redundant.

They could simply just fold the business; pay off anyone they owe money to and flog what's left.

The 2 key differences for me are Ayalya staying fit and Brereton's goals; without either, we're not half the team.

I agree with with what you say re: the owners. They're the one constant in our decline. I do believe that we can do better than Mowbray though, even with our owners.

I think it's just laziness.

So what are you saying then? That we stick with Waggott & Mowbray until Venkys leave?

We should be able to do a lot better than someone who's highlight is finishing in 11th place.

He's just stating the bleeding obvious, more like.

Lucky you. I've got another couple of years left 😞

When I get called out at work, I do my level best to prove them wrong. But you're right. The next time we're getting booted out of a cup by a lower league team, or we're 3-0 down at half time after another insipid showing, I'll keep on clapping.

Disagree. Booing is way of projecting displeasure. If a player is not up to snuff, or the manager repeatedly makes the same mistakes etc, then I have no qualms at all with booing. They are football professionals, who have intentionally placed themselves in the public spotlight.

Exactly. I can only imagine what the reaction would have been to the 'criticism' certain players had from the Riverside back in the day.

If Norwich go down though - which they likely will - Farke would be a better choice to get them back up rather than Smith.

Sorry @rigger I was meaning right back if Nyambe does one in January.

We're going to need one soon enough, and a first choice one at that!

Just a thought @tonyoz ... Van Hecke hasn't got a score for the Fulham game, probably cos he wan't on the pitch long enough. Shouldn't the fact that he got an early red - and as a result altering the game for the worse - count against him?

I agree with this; one price for every league game. As we are, people will choose games primarily based on price. The trick is to get them into the habit of coming to most games, not for them to pick an odd game here and there.