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Not caught up 100% on this thread yet and not checked the socials as it's just your typical Alan "throw enough s#!t and some will stick" Nixon and then fan rumours. The issue with appointing a manager when you're in our position and with our budget is that they generally fall into one of the below 4 categories: 1) Little-to-no experience of management and has usually been an assistant rather than number 1 (Boa Morte, Boateng, Lijnders, etc.) 2) Up-and-coming manager who hasn't managed at this level but has had success further down the pyramid or in a league below Championship standard (Duff, Wellens etc.) 3) Manager who's not managed in the Championship but has managed at/had success at a relative comparable level (Gerrard, Wicky etc.) 4) Those who've had success previously (occasionally at this level) but have failed in one or more of their more recent jobs (Karanka, Ismael etc.) Out of the above, you'll never get an appointment that will unite the fan base - especially with our owners and board. If you're going to pick from category 1, you might as well stick with Lowe. If you're going to pick from category 2, Duff is the only option for me but I can't see him working for these lot. Category 3 is the best out of these categories. They can be the most exciting (see JDT) but definitely not guaranteed success. Gerrard would be a good shout considering his Liverpool connections for loans and the fact we haven't got a pot to p!55 in. His pulling power in the summer for the freebies and loans we will no doubt fill our squad with could help us get some of the better ones. Wicky would also be interesting but more so for the fact that not much is known about him. If we go into category 4, we might as well put a statement out that we're happy to be an 11th-21st place Championship club.
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What the last week has confirmed is how idiotic that whole fanbase is. From saying “this is the best chance you’ve had to beat us and if you don’t, you’ve bottled it” (whilst they were odds on with the bookies) to proudly showing off an xG of less than 1 on opposition fans messageboards. Yes they may have sold a lot of players recently but they’ve also spent more money this transfer window than any other team in the Championship. You can give me all that net spend argument (which is a fair debate) but when they’ve spent more than the rest of the league, they should have arguably the best team in the league and therefore should be battering teams with budgets like ours (like they do when they go up against City in the Prem). And don’t even get me started on that song about them winning a 2nd division trophy at our stadium. At least sing about winning a proper trophy… oh wait… 🎶 They won the league at Ewood but they don’t realise, A second division trophy is not success in our eyes. Champions of England in 1995, that last time that they won it none of the f***ers were alive. 🎶
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That *was* the January Window
CoconutGrove replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
As a few have said, Ornstein seems to have his finger on the pulse with a lot of the business the London PL teams do. My thoughts on the Wharton situation are that: 1) Palace have bid a decent amount of money a week before the deadline shuts. That suggests they’re keen and will probably come back in the coming days 2) The people saying they’d have accepted £15m for him shows why it’s a good job they are not making these decisions, considering Palace have already gone above that 3) It amazes me how many people (see it on Twitter/X a lot as well) want to sell our best players at the first opportunity of cash. Unfortunately, it’s not like we are a competent club where we could buy 5/6 very good championship players for that cash as the likelihood is that a minuscule amount of that will be re-invested 4) I get that a lot of people (especially those who remember the play-off games) don’t think Palace is a good move for the lad but I completely disagree. They are one of the best clubs for buying exciting talent from the Championship and playing them. Olise and Eze the prime examples. If Hodgson goes soon and they bring in the right person, it would be a good place for Adam to learn his trade in the PL (providing they stump up the right cash) -
I’m honestly at that stage now where I’m falling out of love with the club, rapidly. When you consider we’ve got some excellent young players (A Wharton), players who graft (Szmodics) and a manager who’s young and hungry, it’s a shame and quite frankly disgraceful that I’m not the only one in the same situation. It’s not even about the on-the-field issues we’ve had over the last month (although the cost-cutting like slashing the wage bill and replacing with players on a fraction of the wage doesn’t help). It’s not just the pricing out of the fans by having our season tickets totally disproportionate to the wages of living in one of the most deprived areas of the UK. It’s not just selling off the academy ground (the one thing that has kept this club in the Championship in the last 5 years). It’s not just the “Digital Day” shambles that’s going to stop a certain section of fans from being able to attend (even if it stops 1 fan, that’s 1 too many). It’s not just the shambles of hosting a “Liverpool Legends Night” in one of our suites, which is horrifically embarrassing for the fans and, despite not like the word, is tinpot. It’s not just having a CEO who doesn’t give a flying f**k about the club or the fans. It’s not just having owners who are the same. It’s all of the above happening and still hearing the “if it wasn’t for the owners, we wouldn’t have a club to support” or “no matter how bad the owners are, it’s the managers fault”. I’m not expecting the days of competing for the PL title as that’ll never happen in my lifetime. But when you’ve got clubs like Bournemouth and Luton being in an even worse position than us, getting owners who care and being a million miles ahead of us, it shows what can happen. Even further down the pyramid, you’ve had Coventry City ripped apart and now look healthy and have their club back. 10/15 miles down the road and Bolton fans are back in love with their club again. That’s all I want but will not happen again til the cowboys and Indians leave.
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Somebody I didn’t ever have the pleasure of meeting in person but had interactions with him on Twitter and he was a true gent. Horrible news and as others have said, it’s really knocked me back this afternoon. Sleep easy, Matt 💙🤍
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v Rotherham (a) - 12/08/2023
CoconutGrove replied to Upside Down's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
A ground I’ve never seen us win at but seen us humiliated at a couple of times (last season and the one where Semi Ajayi scored a couple). Same XI as last week (unless A. Wharton is ready for 90 minutes but I doubt it with it coming so soon after the Walsall game). Dolan has his doubters but his pressing game is important to how we set up. If somebody else comes in, they need to make sure they harass the opposition as much as he does. Heart says 2-0 Rovers, the ‘normal’ part of my brain says 2-0 Rovers, the negative part says 2-1 Rotherham. -
I’d be picking Dolan over Hedges for this. Don’t get me wrong, I imagine the goal last night means Hedges’ confidence is flowing and he probably sees the right as a more natural side than Tyrhys. I just feel that Dolan does better in games we aren’t favourites in, exploits the space left better and presses a lot better than Hedges. Against these lot, we need to press from the front (which we’ve done excellently recently) and Dolan, Gallagher and Szmodics are crucial to that.
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v Reading (h) - 15/3/23, 7:45pm
CoconutGrove replied to arbitro's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Massive 3 points. At this stage of the season, it’s all about the points on the board. The 37th game last season was the 1-0 home defeat to Bristol City, where we missed a penalty late on then they scored a stoppage time winner. Make no mistake, the mentality of these boys this season is stronger and more determined than last. I was in the camp of not wanting Mowbray out (as I thought we were more likely to see a Coyle-style appointment) but my word, JDT is a breath of fresh air. Not afraid to put players in the U21’s for a couple of weeks and nearly every time that’s happened, the players have come back faster, stronger, fitter and better. Back to the game yesterday, it was a good performance and we should have scored more. But looking at the data (and I’m not a fan of the xG stuff), it’s one of the only times this season that I can think of where we have missed a number of chances this season. That said, what Gallagher lacked in finishing last night he made up for in being better in the air, being a nuisance in the middle and playing that delightful backheel for the winning goal. All in all, this is a game where you can see the change in the belief of players compared to just a year ago. Now it’s about getting me in that away end on Sunday, with 5,900 of my fellow fans and cheering the boys on because they deserve it. JDT’s Blue and White Army 💙🤍 -
v Stoke City (a) - 10/3/23
CoconutGrove replied to Sweaty Gussets's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I was thinking this yesterday so had a look. As a Rovers fan, you can pretty much guarantee that any ex-Rovers players (or those fortunate enough to have been born in this town) tend to have a good game against us. Just this season we’ve seen that with Khadra bagging in the cup and Oli Rathbone scoring in the game at Rotherham. When looking at Brereton’s stats against all clubs, the two teams he’s played the most against without scoring a goal or assisting are Nottingham Forest & Stoke City (7 and 6 matches respectively). Not sure if that’s just a weird quirk which he will be looking to break on Friday but thought it interesting enough to share with the folk on here. -
5988 according to this: https://www.thstofficial.com/thst-news/information-for-spurs-fans-travelling-to-sheffield-united
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I can’t speak for Garnerfags but Spurs got that allocation. I think the rule is 15% but with segregation, they’d have to pay for policing and stewards to let a couple of hundred home fans in the stand and that just doesn’t make sense. Even if they wanted to do that, with the way the stand is set up, they just couldn’t do it with concourses etc. so I think it’s safe to assume that’s our allocation. One of the big points not mentioned since the draw is regarding Sheff Utd’s team selection. It was discussed during their game with Spurs but it will be interesting (and the next couple of league fixtures could influence this) to see if they persist with playing their squad players…
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January Transfer Window.
CoconutGrove replied to Upside Down's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
If someone was awry from a different end away from Ewood Park, the club would have been wise to include that in their statement for a couple of reasons: 1) Throws the blame onto somebody else 2) Ramps up pressure on the EFL with their appeal. The fact they haven’t done so (when I can’t see a legal reason why that would be prevented) to me shows that the club knows it’s on them. Shambolic. -
Might be a stupid question (apologies if so) but is the Rovers Trust similar to the Blackburn Rovers Action Group (BRAG) that @glen9mullan was apart of around a decade ago? Whilst I didn’t always agree with their protests (some of them I did and attended myself), they were very much persistent and brought national coverage to the issues at the club. The last few years has shown that the shambles from inside the club hasn’t changed that much from when Jerome A and his cronies were here. Waggott (with his ST prices, poor recruitment and general incompetence) needs to be told that it appears a lot of people have reached the end of their tether with this regime. Will protests be planned for Waggott and Venkys in the near future as I feel even the most forgiving of supporters have finally had enough?
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January Transfer Window.
CoconutGrove replied to Upside Down's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
As is the other posters’ comments implying that threatening Brereton with dropping to the “ressies” would lead to clubs offering us the fee we would want and Brereton would be happy to leave. -
January Transfer Window.
CoconutGrove replied to Upside Down's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Aye, that would’ve gone down well - I can just picture it now. Broughton tells JDT he’s not able to select Brereton as he has said he doesn’t want to sign a new deal. Clubs interested in Brereton hold off, knowing we are desperate to sell. We lose our first 3 games of the season, morale at a low point. Mercer comes onto BRFCS to moan that Broughton’s selfishness is ruining the club and moans that he is out of his depth. We then sell Brereton to Everton for £2m on deadline day as we’ve gone all in with 2/7 offsuit and been called. Sounds much better than the situation we are currently in.