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Until they come good or they leave us. If the former, you'll be asked to retract your opinions. If the latter, he'll change his mind and claim he didn't.

This is as succinct a summary of the disaster I think we're currently staring in the face as I can imagine.

I'll cede there's a plan but it doesn't coalesce with succeeding in this league.

Ipswich, Southampton, Leicester, Boro A few of the teams we haven't had to play yet and we've lost 75% of games. The Hull win was against a truly dreadful team. I'm sick of being told I'm overly negative. Travis for Tavares is a monumental downgrade and I'm supposed to believe we've improved? Fuck off. We need to improve drastically and quickly.

Tavares hooked at HT. He's been very poor and is far from a replacement for Travis as thing stand.

So VI currently won't even commit to a date for Baradji. I'm not sure we'll see him on the pitch for a good while.

1 more. Potentially another if they fancy selling Hyam.

I wouldn't touch him with yours.

There's no use in us arguing semantics, I don't think saying Hull were dreadful is downplaying a result, you do. Fine. That's why I said a real start. Of course the points count, let's not be silly. Two wins in a row and I would consider our season truly underway.

Contextualising a result isn't downplaying it. They were horrible and apparently had a virus running through their team that week. Beating Norwich would be a real start.

This is where we disagree. Yeah he's not achieved anything but neither have any of the squad. If all the EFL moved on players who didn't contribute to milestones or trophy wins you'd have full squad turnover year on year. He was one of our best players, well loved and was a great captain. If you disagree with that fair enough but I absolutely think he was worth retaining.

I couldn't say what they're paying him, but 30k I would agree is too much. They could have tied him down for an extra 5-10k though 18 months ago, I'm sure of that.

Please, be serious. @Neal I don't necessarily disagree with your rant/post and I'm not overly upset about Travis feeling hurt. What I am angry about is that we clearly wanted to keep our captain, but we can't/won't offer him the same wages as Derby fucking County. It's absolutely beyond the pale.

This is an impressive display of willful ignorance, I'm sorry.

So the ref gave a yellow because he didn't think Gordon was that type of player?

I didn't see that coming! More than happy to hold my hands up, we played really well. Hull were dross, though. Poor across the park.

3-1 Hull. We're the team to play right now. Starting midfield is OK but with no Trav and a crocked star signing there's not much else in the tank.

Coked up meatheads looking for a scrap =/= organised protest against ownership you wally.

Tronstad will be gone by the end of the year, McLouglin is just through the door. Cantwell is the only viable option, the other have been sold or released.

It says more about our dearth of options than any insight from Chadster.

To your first point - I'm of the opinion it's weakened our position considerably. To your second, absolutely.

Seems like being "open and honest" at all times, without a lick of guile or tact isn't quite the positive plenty thought it would be. As @JHRover says, this is a situation entirely of our own doing, and I'm pretty confident it's by design. One thing you can say about the scum who own us is they're masters of spinning narrative and getting a lot of our fans eating out of their hands. I've seen people deride Travis for being leggy, having a low xG and not having an engine. Thick as mince, the lot of them.

3 losses this season - one to Bradford - have elicited 0 emotion from me.

I can't believe there are people out there happy to defend the contract strategy that has led to the current situation. Do you honestly believe it's the right thing to do, or are you just willing to back whatever the club does? On the second point, as always, no-one is allowed to form opinion until such time you deem it sensible. His record, to me, isn't good enough and this season so far (and I'm going to count the loss to Bradford, thanks VI) is very bad.

You'd want to make a couple of changes heading into this, I think. But who? Pickering? Maybe but doesn't offer much difference to Ribeiro. Miller? Not over Alebiosu going on last game. Foreshaw, Buckley? Absolutely not. Montgomery? I'd rather play Foreshaw. Axel? Nope, not yet. Gueye? Not if we fancy scoring. No real injuries of note and we're already scraping the barrel. When we've got 2 games a week and a few injuries the dearth of talent available is going to be really apparent. Can't see past a Hull (transfer embargo, remember) win.