StHelensRover

The problem is that people in group 1 and group 4 (ignore 2&3 for now) are likely to be of the view that the other group are damaging or sabotaging the prospects of the club. I'm in group 1 and while I'm not hostile to people in group 4, my long term view is that their unwillingness to see my point of view will allow venkys to continue to ruin the club. They might think that people like me who are going to boycott are damaging the club by impacting players, results, finances, whatever. I don't agree with that but that is likely to be their view. Who is is in the right?

If as a fan base we can't convince the group 4 people to show their dissatisfication and/or anger towards to the owners then we won't succeed, but at the same time, if they haven't been persuaded to join in by this point I don't think anything could persuade them, unless we ended up in league 2 or liquidated, by then it would be too late and we might do a Bury. At that point some of group 4 which you've described might regret not speaking out earlier. That's not a prediction of what is going to happen to this club but it's not unthinkable in the long term. I think League One is inevitable in the next couple of years if they don't leave.

I'm a STH of almost 3 decades (including the Covid season) and I'll be boycotting the Watford game. I'm also really torn on ST renewal and whether I can bring myself to not renew. I think final league position may have some bearing on that. If they take us down again I definitely won't be going this time, it will be the remaining 5000 "true fans" who just keep going, who would not bat an eyelid about owners even if we were running out in the north west counties... as long as they were "backing the lads". Jack Walker's legacy down the drain, but just "back the lads, don't be negative". I feel resigned at this point to the boycott not really materialising and the crowing that will occur from the Venkyclappers (no one will buy us, we'd do a Bury without them, we're so grateful, brigade) when that happens.

Sheff Weds fans didn't know whether a boycott would definitely work, but they went ahead with it and it seems to have helped. Leicester City fans largely boycotted their most recent home game. They won't have known what the outcome of that will be. But they've given it a go. It got a lot of attention, let's see what happens. We have absolutely nothing to lose by boycotting one single match. What is the worst that would happen? You might miss our 3rd home win of the season in a season of rubbish and misery in a relegation scrap? So what? It's one game out of the years, decades you've been going. No one knows what the outcome will be of a boycott, but let these owners know how you feel. The boycott might not make the owners sell but the cost of trying is so small and meaningless that I can't understand why it's not worth just trying.

Great article. We all know the root cause, it's the fifteen year old elephant in the room. Enough of naysayers saying we should be grateful of their pitiful stewardship of the club. This club will never be anything we can be proud of again until these owners leave. They have not improved one single thing about Blackburn Rovers FC since they bought it in 2010. They have made it worse in so many ways that I have lost count. People need to stop settling for what the Venkys offer, which is absolutely no ambition, mediocrity at best and a bargain basement approach to running one of England's greatest football clubs. They need to go. Once they have gone, we'll deal with whatever comes next.

I just watched the short clips of the Leicester & WBA goals and the King Power looks empty, it is usually full every week. I'd give my left leg to have had the last 15 years Leicester have had while we've been tortured by the Venkys, but their fans aren't standing for having the piss taken out of them for the last two years. Fair play to them.

If someone at this point still believes we are better off with Venkys than without, against a 15 year in the making, huge mountain of evidence, then it's as if they're speaking a completely different language or living in a different reality from my perspective. I can't see how the two opposing views are even mutually intelligible. I don't know what constructive dialogue there is to have. Common ground also sounds like compromise, which is important in some areas of life, but I personally wouldn't be prepared to compromise on the view that the club should be rid of these owners tomorrow, there's no way I can climb down from that. What does a common ground approach look like? I don't think many people who want them out are prepared to water down their view on the Venkys, so I'm not sure where to start on common ground. What do you think?

Has the club put out an attendance for today yet? Be interested to know what they're claiming. I was in the BBE so I could see everywhere else except this view. There's clearly no more than 2500 home fans in the BBE, possibly less. Not many friends coming for a tenner to see Rudy's exciting times project. I'm guessing we were around the 7k mark again in actual numbers.

I doubt any of them were inspired to stay and fight on under him, they probably saw this all coming and wanted out, so he's partially to blame.

This dud manager has still only managed to win 4 matches at Ewood Park and he's been here 11 months. He's shite, that result was shite. Anything other than a win was unacceptable today and we've conspired to deliver yet again. Edit - Venkys out

After watching that first half I think he might be here, playing at the back for Rovers

You might need to click on the image itself and then it will display, I think that's just how it's showing on your Facebook app.

Entertaining game at Big Club so far, not much defending going on but plenty of goals. Eiran Cashin has just come off the bench for Big Club after 65 mins

There is a perennial venky lover on social media who does lots of long posts (well, my guess is that he gets AI to produce long posts, judging by the layout and wording) about all the reasons we should accept our lot with the Venkys. His key argument is that no one else except the Venkys would be willing to sustain these large losses. He hasn't explained why Venkys are happy to sustain them if no one else will, it's a contradictory argument. He also hasn't travelled far from Blackburn, because most Championship teams run at huge losses which are comparable to ours (PNE and Stoke off top of my head). Neither of those clubs have had much success in recent years but I'd swap their owners for ours tomorrow, why do their owners accept huge losses every year? Only Venkys are prepared to apparently.

He'll have to explain why someone bought Wrexham in the fifth tier then, because Blackburn has a far larger population than Wrexham and it's surrounding area and all the arguments he made about Blackburn apply at least two-fold to a small town in North Wales. Wrexham's owners are targeting (might not manage) Premier League football. Our owners and naysayers like this dickhead on social media are targeting keeping the lights on.