StHelensRover

Fans also aren't demanding instant success, we're demanding owners who care about the club as much as we do, owners who come to games, owners who employ the best possible people they can afford and find to run the club, people with the right experience. I've never been able to think of one single thing about the football club that is in any way better than it was in 2010 when they took over. They haven't improved a single thing by any measure. Everything is either the same or worse, most things are worse. How can people be happy with that approach and attitude? Cheap, cheerful, bargain basement, horrible approach which has humiliated us and taken the pride out of supporting the club.

Most of these claims have been debunked hundreds of times on these threads in the last twelve months. Not going there again. "Rovers 1990-2010 was not our natural position in the football pyramid, its not what we deserved, its what we were gifted." The football league has been going for 137 years and for 72 of those we've been in the top flight. I think we've got the 16th most top flight points in league history. We've won trophies in three different centuries, we were the first club to do so. We were one of the best teams in the world in the 19th century, pioneers of the sport. One of the best teams in the country during in the 1910s, the 1950s and 60s, one of the best teams around in the 1990s. But that's not our natural position, we should be accepting mediocrity? We should be grateful to be scrapping round the bottom of the second division, that's our natural level? No thanks. Small unfashionable town maybe but a football club that has some incredible history and records that 90% of other clubs would kill for. I won't be settling for League One shite, just coz we were also shite for a bit on the 70s.

I hate Venkyclappers more than Burnley. Burnley fans hate Rovers and would love nothing more than for us to lose every single week and fall through the leagues, that feeling goes both ways. Given that, does it strike any of the Venkyclappers as unusual that every single time we've played Burnley in the last 15 years, they've spent half the game chanting about how much they love the Venkys and waving Indian flags at us? "But they're keeping us going, no one else would put the money in, FFP etc. They're doing their best, no one else would buy us, no one else could do better" Yeah that's why Burnley fans wave the Indian flags and chant about them every time we play then.

There's going to be some fans are are very gleeful that the ground wasn't completely empty today and will be smug and crowing about it, best to ignore any of that and not take the bait.

I don't think 4-5k boycotted, probably more like 2500, but we'll see what the police stats say compared with other recent Saturday games. Doesn't sound like much but it's probably around 25% of the remaining attendees these days, so it's a decent number. As many have pointed out, 22k+ home fans on most weeks just before the Venkys bought the club, now 8.5k season ticket holders and a few hundred walk-ons is what we're down to. The 15 year gradual boycott. I wonder/fear how low attendances could get before something happens.

Radio Lancashire, Kevin Gallacher and the phone caller who could pass for a club plant all very pleased with one point against a middling Watford side, taking it to one win in 14 competitive matches. I'm in an unreleased episode of the Twilight Zone

Anyone else heard this Venkyclapper David on Radio Lancs just now? Talked absolute shite for 10 minutes about Rovers. Said we're a brilliant team with brilliant players, talked complete rubbish. It's like he's been watching a different team. Then spent 2 minutes proper hammering the boycotters. Smug as anything and tone deaf. Thick as mince and probably getting a free hospitality ticket in the post. If he speaks for the majority of people who attended today (not saying he does, no idea) then we are absolutely goosed. Furious hearing that, would love to know if he ever frequents here. He sounded like one or two regular posters with his level of delusion.

The only time this season there will have been more than 11,000 Rovers fans in the stadium will have been the 150th anniversary, take no notice.

The only time this season there will have been more than 11,000 Rovers fans in the stadium will have been the 150th anniversary, take no notice.

Personally I'm a bit gutted about the boycott, I don't think it's sufficient enough. Great that it has been mentioned in the media, but everyone except Rovers fans will have forgotten by Monday. Not enough have stayed away, I think the arseholes running the club are going to claim a moral victory and vote of confidence. Today's attendance is probably what we're going to be seeing on average next season though

Still think we'll win today despite no rational reason, will be like a cup upset. Wouldn't surprise me if the club have given out hundreds of extra free tickets for this one as well. Whatever the result, the club and Venkyclappers will find a way to spin it against those who boycott, but take no notice. We all know that attendances in recent years have zero bearing on results at Ewood Park.

I would say any other match is probably fair game but it won't work for the PNE game. I would probably follow a call to boycott it or walk out or whatever, but lots of fans will not, we can't even convince everyone to boycott a meaningless game against Watford, we've no chance of it succeeding in what is considered the most exciting game of the season. It will just cause more division. Also, there is no chance of PNE fans joining in a protest, like I said, they consider us a major rival. I couldn't be paid to join in a protest or boycott at B*rnley.

If the calls are real, I can't fathom how they would draw any sympathy. The morality and legality of exposing these calls to the public domain is questionable, but it definitely shows what a clown show the club is. If that is actually Gestede 'negotiating' over Pears, he wouldn't get past the first round on The Apprentice, more embarrassment under Venkys.

Could turn out to be Steve Kean, and that he's been working undercover for 15 years to expose the Venkys, which meant he had to temporarily pose as a Premier League manager in order to get on the inside. That would be exciting.

I think we're best not doing anything for the PNE match. I don't personally consider it a glamorous fixture or a 'big derby' but lots of fans do and that definitely will sow division if there are calls to boycott, disrupt or do some kind of walk-in/out protest at that match specifically. Plus there will be 7,000 away fans lapping it up and laughing, because it is a 'massive derby' for them