This result confirms that before we have any thoughts of pushing for the play offs this team needs some serious improvement. So two games 80 minutes against 10 men and a 2-0 lead have resulted in only 2 points. I guess we have to give them credit to have led us to relative safety in the division but many of this squad are simply not good enough to progress any further. I think it will take 3 or 4 transfer windows of successful improvement

I agree I think most out business will be re-jigging out loan players. Solanke must be looking to go out on loan from Liverpool. Hes not had a kick this season other than England U21s. I think hes out of our reach though and will probably go to bottom half prem sides. Vydra also doesnt seem to have played much but is proven in the Championship. I think we will be sniffing around squad players on loan from teams like Everton, Bournemouth etc.

Looking at the games coming up this is an important game at home. I'd want us to go at it from the off. Need Reed in the middle. Raya Nyambe Lenihan Mulgrew Bell Reed Evans Rothwell Dack Armstrong Graham

Agree I think Chapman has missed the boat with us now. I wouldn't think anyone would look at him until he's had a couple of years injury free. Another loan maybe. Lack of pace and lack of goals other than dack or Graham is our main issue.

We've no attacking flair other than Dack (when he turns up). Need some pace

We'd have taken a point before the game, but given the circumstances it's a big 2 points dropped. If we were down to 10 men I doubt we'd have kept it level

Not got a good feeling about this one. perhaps thats a good think after being quietly confident before the Preston and Wigan game. I doubt there will be many goals whatever the score. Drab 0-0.

Just had a quick look, seems he starts regularly on the left. Made 14 appearances and started the last game. Still feel a bit surprised a blackburn fan born in blackburn jumped ship at the first opportunity. He only had about 10 games under his belt with us.

Surely we need to look for some pace in January. Other than Armstrong and Nyambe there isnt really any. A geniunie wide player with pace on loan would give us a different dimension expecially when chasing a game or for the last 30 mins. Probably a young PL loan player, no idea who mind. How has Bauer beeing doing? Is he still out of contract in summer?

Anyone heard how Connor Mahoney has got on since forcing a move from us last year? Not heard anything about him other than he went on loan somewhere.

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We have a lot of competition and multiple players who can cover the same position.....but some of them just aren't good enough. It's gonna take multiple transfer windows of good purchases to make us promotion contenders.

Not a bad side. Apart from Armstrong and Nyambe there's not much pace. 3 weeks off will probably do Graham good. I can see Brereton getting his first goal today. On for Palmer on about 65 mins and scores for a 1-0 win.

Cant see in a million years we would get Solanke. Hes just scored 4 in 2 for the under 21s. I can see a mid table prem team taking him on loan in January. As others have said the squad is fairly competetive. I would like to see a strong powerful striker on loan unless Brereton starts getting a few games there.A pacey wide man on loan would also be good. If theres one thing our team lacks overall its pace. I wonder if we will re-visit for the charlton Centre Back Bauer in January. A bit of height I can see us making one or two additions at most. I also think Travis, Nuttal, Tomlinson and some others may go out on loan.

I actually think England are playing better now than at the world cup. The 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 looks much more balanced than the 3 at the back we played in the world cup. It will be interesting to see if southgate sticks with it or goes back to his WC formation for an important game. Some decent young players coming through at the moment which has showed in the u17 u18 and u21s winning tournaments. Hope they all get given opportunities at club level .

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I personally have no issue with giving Rooney 15 minutes for a proper send off. He is our record goalscorer and unfortunately was in his prime when the rest of the England set up was a complete shambles. I am far far more mystified by Fabian Delph being selected as Captain. He must have less than 10 caps and hasnt kicked a ball for city for some time. Ive not seen the squad but If Delph is captain I am assuming they are all making their England debuts.

Does anyone find their ps4 has much slower internet speeds than other devices in the house? My virgin Fibre optic is rated to around 170mb/s. My phone, laptop and tablet all seem to get close to this fairly regularly, but my PS4 wired connection seems to average about 10mb/s. A fraction of the speed of other decices. I've tried various tips off YouTube but it doesn't make much difference. Interested to know if it's a common issue or my ps4 is showing it's age. I've had it from near launch. It also takes forever to download and install updates.

If we have any ambitions of promotion we have to win these games. This is also a chance to take the handbreak off a bit and give some license to the creative players. Maybe give Brereton, Palmer or Rothwell a bit more game time.

Such a shame. I pulled my Hamstring quite badly in July in pre season for a local team. Never done a hamstring before but its still in the back of my mind now it might go at any minute and im still not confident to sprint 100% God knows what goes through Chapmans mind when hes on the pitch...his who game was around his speed. Will be tough to get his spark back. Hope he does.

Have a feeling we will win this one. Im going for 2-0. Again I hope Mowbray goes for a young energetic team, but I think well see a revert back to the norm with Evans and Smallwood in the middle and Reed out wide somewhere. My Team: Leutwiler (assumin Raya out) Bennett Lenihan Mulgrew Bell Reed Evans Armstrong Dack Rothwell Graham

Haha keyboard warrior...calm down. On the football, was concerned by the line up before the game but I would probably have taken 4 points from Leeds at home and Swansea and WBA away. Surprised Arma didn't start.

Energy in midfield and pace up top for this I think. Can't see us having much of the ball so it's vital when we break it's with speed. I wouldn't be surprised to see Graham miss out or start as sub. Mowbray mentioned he's struggling with a dodgy back at the moment. Raya Bennett Lenihan Mulgrew Bell Reed Evans Rothwell Dack Armstrong Graham

Is anyone into Call of Duty on here? I got Black Ops 4 a week or so ago. I must say Im not that impressed. The graphics look pretty average at best to me. COD WW2 looked much nicer on the screen. Black Ops seems to have bright blocky colours and even the weapon detail isnt great. Reminds me more of the very first CODs that came out on PS4 4 or 5 years ago. Anyone else think similar? Think Ill see what the new Battlefield is like and decide whether to trade.

He doesnt seem to be doing anything football related at the moment looking at his Wiki page. Would be great if he came here as a coach of some form. Also see he won the Turkish masterchef!