I think we're at the stage where it doesn't matter who the manager is. And I think Jon will walk at the end of the season

Well look where Bowyers been since. Blackpool when they were a division of two lower, Salford and is it Dundee now? He was way out of his depth, bit he gave it, deep breath, altogether everyone, 3 2 1 A REET GOOD GO

Nice. Good one to have on the wall. Just realised I've got a few tops. Kappa promotion top. Kappan training top. ASICS drill top. This retro one I've got coming. I just wouldn't bother buying anything from the club shop. Not until venkys go.

If it's in decent nick, yes. I guess it wouldn't still have the box 90

Yeah, I'm normally a large. Got my 2001 away kit out, which is a large, and the measurements on that corresponded to what is an XL for this kit. My order is in. I'm still gutted about missing out on 125th anniversary kit.

I was seventeen then. Oh to be seventeen now! Happier days. If was great following rovers back then.

Read this and thought to myself"this all sounds a bit familiar" Edit, oooops, forgot to put link in Valencia: Former La Liga winners and Champions League finalists in turmoil - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64545162

There was nice Garreh Bowyer giving it a "reset good go".

There's an article on the BBC website about dyche at Everton. With some words from some of his old players. Now this following quote really caught my eye. Admittedly, I don't follow rovers press conferences religiously, but I thought to myself, it's been so long since I've heard a rovers manager said anything like this That is what he did at Burnley. He said: 'I promise you, you will have a team that will give everything for the shirt, week in, week out, win, lose or draw.'

It's unbelievable what these pricks have managed to achieve in a decade or so. But it's their baby.

We know that demonstration won't shift them. I think the only way they'll piss off is of the club gets taken off them "oh no, out baby!") But how would that even be possible? They smell of piss, they've got breath like a rubbish tip fire, they've got skiddies for days, and proper man boobs. And they've got pork pies where their brains should be. It's embarrassing that they're associated with this club. It would need her enough if they cleaned the stadium toilets out, but as owners? Hell no!

Please don't give me that sort of hope. It's the hope that kills you. If they still own the club in thirty years' time, all of my passion would've been extinguished, that's if I'm still alive then. I find their ownership very difficult to accept. They may own the club, but they don't t own me, and I may have to take up crown green bowls instead

I read this and the first thought that came to mind is, "he's being told what team too pick then".

It's a very strange club, we were third and the manager said (paraphrasing, forgive me if I'm wrong here) promotion is not the objective. Coming out with shit like that (even if it is true) and having a craic on the bench as we take a spanking off of Rotherham. I mean it is a bad message, and it must be following down to the players.

Well there's the need to rebuild, I'll give you that. My contention is that it's not being rebuilt, it's gradually declining. But hey, there's nothing I can do anyway, except watch to see how it pans out

Was it a rebuild job though? Lost more players than were brought in, and some of those who were brought in were for big money and of dubious quality. I don't see rebuilding, I see managed decline. Yes we are in trip six, but I wonder for how much longer. And let's not forget, it's Broughton whose getting the players in, if any fucker should be sacked, it's surely him first. But still, what's the point, it's venkys. Nothing works, everything is shit, there's no hope and on and on it goes. I just feel so apathetic about it all

Yeah, I do agree there's no point getting rid of tomasson. As much as him laughing on the sidelines aggravates me. We'd just how someone else who's essentially just a front man. They're killing the spirit of this club. I've given up hope of them ever selling. It's just going to be like this for years and years and years. Who needs it? It's shameful.

Seriously? He can get rammed if that's the case. No wonder we've got issues. This is all starts with venkys however and nothing will change until they go. "It's so sad to watch a sweet thing die"

It's fine, no worries. And to be honest, atko was my favourite player back in the day. And he was as fit as a butcher's dog 🐶

Honestly lads, take it from me, the aggro just isn't worth it. Yesterday I had terrible neck ache, my jaw was killing me and my sinuses too. Look what happened, I got myself into a silly argument by venting. I should've just accepted that other people saw it differently, said thank you very much and got on with my day. Acceptance is the key word. Accepting is not the same as liking or surrendering to. I accept that people have different views, I accept that Burnley rammed us, I've even come close to accepting (and it certainly doesn't mean I think they're ok) that venkys own us right now. Without accepting the things that you can't do anything about, your mental health suffers. We've all just come through this pandemic, some of us have had a very hard time, there's a cost of living crisis going on. We should all be looking out for each other if anything. I wish you all (and I do mean all, whether we see eye to eye or not) a great day, and a happy new year. Look after yourselves, and try to look out for people around you who may be suffering but don't want to put their hands up. If you're going through hell, I feel for you more than you know and I wish you strength in digging things out tough. Take it easy guys

I can't even remember myself now to be honest 🤣 but Twitter play to you for your passion and earnestly-held views. I don't want to argue any further, only too say let's keep our fingers crossed for the rest of the season. All the best to you.

And? Still a track record in this country in coaching, at the then biggest most successful club over a long period of time. Just nit-picking now, the original point long-since lost.

Not sure what all of this valid evidence is. Did Jack ever appoint someone without a track record in this country? No. He always went for what he saw as the best available man for the job at that point. Anyway, time will tell. If he somehow manages to get us promoted, then I'll be big enough to admit that I got it wrong, and of course I'll be made up. We'll just have to wait and see.

Logical fallacy, the aim is to get promoted, but getting turned over by your local rivals to the tune of seven goals in two games is a leading indicator that says there are real problems. Jack would never have appointed him in the first place, but certainly if he'd heard the geezer say the aim is not too get promoted while we're sat in third, his feet wouldn't have touched the ground. But then again, if Jack were here, I'm sure a lot of things would be different

Would Jack Walker have shrugged off losing to Burnley? Not even losing really, more like abject surrender. Would he fucking bollocks like. Think big. After twelve years of night of the living venkys, there's a pow mindset developing. Whatever happened to think big? The only thing that's big about rovers these days is the debt. Well that and the thick layer of shite that's coating the ground.