He's an honourable man, apparently.

Yeah, since about January 2011...

Just been reading a piece in the guardian about the Newcastle takeover. It's written by a Geordie. One line stood out... "Without fantasy, football becomes meaningless" The last eleven years have been devoted of meaning then at Ewood. The only fantasy I have is of Waggott dropping dead, and Venky's selling up.

And still is, you'd have thought? 🤔

Maybe time for a poll, what do you prefer, carry on venkying with sid James as Jerome Anderson and Bernard bresslaw as Mowbray orrrrrrrrr admin, relegation and fan ownership Although really, Bernard would be Barry venkys, Jim dale would be henning berg, Kenneth Williams would be mowbray, Joan Sims as the dragon lady. Wilfred bramble as Steve kean, Charles hawtrey as Derek Shaw and Barbara Windsor as myles Anderson

I seem to remember it coming out that Venky's bought the club on the premise that it would need £5m pa to fund it. I would assume that they're not happy funding it at this current level, that's why it won't ever get fixed. Eventually they're going to get fed up of this lark, they're clearly no good at it, and it's costing them dearly

Jam tomorrow, just like we've been promised for the last eleven years. The Club is being run into the ground. Competent ceo, complete revamp, managerial, coaching staff and player recruitment. Why does all of that need to be sorted? Because Venky's have bloody well wrecked everything. We've had eleven years of all of that being totally hammered to pieces, ruining all of the work of the jack walker Era. Where exactly does flogging of half the training ground for housing fit into these exciting plans to turn everything around? It doesn't, does it? As someone said to me once, don't look at what people say, look at what they do. I wouldn't say we've had phenomenal financial backing at all. Have the club's assets been increased? Nope. What I think it actually is, is phenomenal financial damage. A monstrous increase in liabilities which means we're now beholden to the very people who put us in this mess in the first place. We're a basket case of a club that no one would be interested in buying. And the longer Venky's stay, the worse it gets. They're not capable of fixing the problems they've created. But much worse than that, they're not even bloody interested in fixing the problems they've created. The income stream is shrinking, the cost base isn't shrinking apace with it, they've tried to sell fixed assets presumably to service debt repayment. We're a zombie club, and alarm bells should be ringing. Jesus, they can't even keep the ground clean and tidy. Why anyone would want them to carry on in the folorn hope that barry venky will have an epiphany while he's sat on the pot munching PB jelly sandwiches on the bog phone to fifty cent, I really have no idea. I don't want to live in false hope, let's get them gone and pick up the pieces

It feels punetive

You'd think that someone had something on them aka perpetual blackmail, or they're worried that DD will take some skellingtons . Think that's a little far fetched though

There's no credible buyers and even if there were, they wouldn't be given the time of day by Venky's. Guess we just have to wait out until something happens. Feels like a combination of the Martian and groundhog day at the moment. We're stranded and no one is coming to rescue us. Unfortunately whereas matt Damon eventually got his ass off Mars , every sad season for us is a replay of what went before. Supporters mollified by a letter from venkys telling them that things will be different this year. Toni Moroni promising defenders, bigging up lads helle barely play, starting well and then suddenly fading fast in a blizzard of players out of position, soft goals, best players sold off, cat naps on the bench and David Lowe trying to get people interested in what he's saying. Is either that or it's admin. Choose your poison. It's either get kicked in the nuts by fat Barry's minders year after year, or take a one off beating from the administrator, and be forever free of Venky's

Carrying the hope that the owners are capable of appointing a decent manager, it's just not on the cards, is it really? With had eleven years of them appointing water carriers, yes men, and people like Steve kean. It would be akin to expecting the pope to snort coke out of Kerry katonas cleavage in the mosh pit at an ac DC gig. Yeah, yer man the pope could do something interesting with his time, but no, given past performance, I do feel it to be so unlikely as to be written off as not going to happen. I would argue that rovers have never felt the benefit of Venky's wealth since all of it had gone on servicing the big black hole of debt they themselves created. I think if the club ever gets back on an even keel again, they'll just turn the taps off as much as possible. In the end, they're going to get us relegated anyway. Possibly more than once.

I wouldn't give two stuffs who we're playing, as long as venkys have gone, and we have our club back, I'll be there.

I'd imagine some people would object, and I can understand why. But I'm absolutely with you. I don't care where we start again, just get them gone. Football really needs a massive story out in terms of who is allowed to buy a club (and how much) , and it's a shame that when owners prove to be toxic, as ours undoubtedly are, that the club cannot somehow be taken from them. I don't think football can be trusted to police itself. The whole thing is bent, isn't it really? It's not like you're preferred supersmarket suddenly going downhill so you switch to tesco. These are community assets, a large part of people's lives, and you can't expect it to be sorted out when there's such suspicion of back handed going on

... And owners

Yeah, I think it's short for knickerbockers, which is like plus fours, which is what the players wore in the nineteenth century.

Mowbray vers le sortie.. OUT?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit_(association_football) The rules set out the basic equipment which must be worn by all players in Law 4 (Players' Equipment). Five separate items are specified: shirt (also known as a jersey), shorts, socks (also known as stockings), footwear and shin pads.[1] Goalkeepers are allowed to wear tracksuit bottoms instead of shorts.[2

I remember football socks being called stockings, not sure that's still the case. But quite honestly, who gives a stuff?

Rovers down Venky's confused

He bought a villa in Spain was it on the proceeds of his Newcastle pay-off. If that's losing in life, can someone teach he how to be a loser as well? I was never that keen on Sam. I seen too remember him confessing that he basically chucked a game at old Trafford that I think we lost right nil or so. But then again, I can't complain, but I often do. I was never happy that he was binned, especially so early after Venky's took over, alarm bells were ringing. You only bin your manager if he's taking you down, or you already have someone proven to be better already lined up. Ever since, we've had piss takers in charge of the club, and we're dying on our arse. I seen too remember John Williams binning it and saying it's clear things are going to be done differently at the club now and it's time for me to go. How we've missed him. I don't know how I've coped with eleven years of this nonsense, I wouldn't wish if on my worst enemy. It's the lack of respect the owners show for the club that really hurts.

Almost eleven now. Eleven difficult years, watching a train crash unfold. I often wonder if we'll still be lumbered with the maniacs in another ten years time

Was agreeing with RevidgeBlue's post until the end there. I would say that Venky's hiring a decent manager are two things that just will never be reconciled. It's a forlorn hope. An ex player once told me that the only thing Venky's will get right would be putting the club up for sale. I totally believed him. My worry is that they'll never sell us and we're just dying a very slow and painful death. I can see them disposing of us by crashing the club. Because at some point they'll get fed up of throwing endless amounts of money away

Where does this strategy get you in the end? Right up the khyber. We've had over ten years of these people already, where are we going to be in another ten years time?

😂

A great big Blancmage. Some people may get it