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ben_the_beast replied to speeeeeeedie's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
My feeling is some people like to stick the boot into Liverpool fans. The "always the victim" tagline. From all I've seen the evidence is pointing directly at the French authorities, with the fans being subject to awful treatment. Had there been a less tolerant reaction it could have resulted in a far more serious incident occurring. -
I'm not sure McBride was ever the calibre some suggested. Alot of it was based on the amount he scored at that level, however it was majorly padded out with penalties. Nuttall had goals at senior level which is what resulted in a cash sale which I belive we were extremely lucky to get. Players at that level often go for minimal fees and a sell on % McBrides future was his for the taking. If he didn't cut it at Queens Park I don't think he would have done at League 1 level. At most we'd have received a sell on fee. If we had we'd have still been unlikely to see anything from him in the future. Edit - Best of luck to him. It can't be easy being released. And hopefully he'll have the talent to forge a career in the game. I'm just not sure it is at championship level.
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Mowbray should not have been spending some of our budget on Pears. Its clear that his dad had an influence on his signing. I want to make that clear first. However... I do think people are overly harsh on him. To me he strikes me as a confidence goalkeeper but there is some potential there. I was at Bournemouth away and he was fantastic. As much to do with us winning the 3 points as any other player on the pitch. Wigan in the cup he was obviously horrendous and single handedly cost us the game. The confidence drained out of him after his first mistake. He's not as all round terrible as people make out. But we spent money on a position which wasn't needed and reportedly a salary that is far elevated over his position in the team. It's no wonder someone like Nyambe isn't happy. The fact he's Mowbrays mates son means he attracts criticism. If he came through our youth team we'd be saying he's got potential but needs to build his confidence.
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Like a previous poster said. Reducing it to only Son and Park is extreme. We also have our own potential first team star in Dilan Markanday that you are overlooking. There hasn't been as much representation from Asian countries/communities at the top, top level of football, I will agree with you there but to say its a total waste of time as a talent finding exercise is wrong. I think what you have said is narrow minded and whether you're aware of what you've said I'm not sure, but I do not like the undertones. You saying its a waste of time implies there is no talent out there. Do you not think that the lack of top level talent at the top might be down to a lack of inclusion at a grass roots level? It's this kind of attitude which adds to Football not being an inclusive place. Again I think it's a great initiative. Actions speak louder than words and we are doing excellently in that respect. It places the club at the heart of the community and as a link and a place for people to come together. From a footballing perspective it also means we are very visibly showing we are an inclusive club and the talent which will be there if given the opportunity to shine, will be shining in the blue and white halves.
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Mbappe is an elite player in my opinion. What he has done by staying on at Psg though is he's not truly testing himself. Otherwise it will remain merely in peoples opinions as he's not truly putting himself to the test. Why let money talk when you're making that much anyway. He could have gone anywhere and his legacy would be his to create. Instead he'll keep tearing up the French leagues whilst sitting in his comfort zone.
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Rovers host South Asian talent ID event. https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/20155960.blackburn-rovers-pfa-host-south-asian-talent-id-event/ Good to see Rovers continuing their efforts with the local South Asian community. Making sure it is not isolated to one off events. Behind the scenes we so often wonder what individuals are up to, with a complete lack of creativity or effort being shown (more in the marketing areas of the club). It's great to see the club taking the initiative here and try to make meaningful connections. I think somebody mentioned the name of the person at the club who has been heading a lot of this. Its a great example to follow.
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It's the difference between advertising a job and head hunting. I find it so, so strange that Rovers talk about applicants and interview/recruitment processes. This isn't a job at a local business. This is the manager of a football club. Any candidates suitable of the position will have their entire career available with a quick bit of research by an average Joe. They shouldn't have to be actively putting their names forwards. To me it's why we've so often relied on managers from one agency. Not because we are bound to them, but because there's so little internal knowledge at the club that it's the only way we source a candidate.
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Apparently someone loves us ❤️❤️
ben_the_beast replied to G Somerset Rover's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Mowbray has frustrated at times, both with his tactics/results and then his demeanour and interviews when things are going badly. We were held together too long by owners not willing to make tough decisions and tensions became inevitable. The fans and Mowbray were like a couple staying together due to circumstance and not love. Even the smallest gripe becomes a huge issue. Now we have clarity I for one think thanks is owed. We are in a better place than when he took over. There may be a division in the fanbase but it is a far cry from how fractured it was under Coyle. The promotion was a success, even if expected and for the first time we saw players playing for the shirt again. Dacky, Graham, Mulgrew and Mowbray. It was a good time and I believe they all cared. Its the minimum one should expect but something Rovers fans had been deprived of and it felt great to be able to support the club again. Over time I think he's become jaded and when you know you're not accountable for your results it's difficult to be 100% That and the fact he has been the clubs mouthpiece for so long, his ramblings have been bizarre at times and even slightly insulting. Overall I do think his heart has been in the right place though. It has been a journey. Not always a particularly progressive one but the stability he has brought was needed for the first 3 years of his reign. So a thank you Tony Mowbray from me, best of luck in the future, you've done your best and in my opinion left the club in a better place than you found it. -
I think it's as simple as Venkys working to a different timescale to the football world and are probably very confused what all the fuss is about. I'm certain in their eyes Mowbray has a contract until the end of June, so why the rush. That's the deadline they are working to rather than the end of the season and now they've had to look for a spot in their calendars which suits all so they can schedule in a chat with him. Urgency is not a word which registers with our owners. Aside from agents taking advantage of them in the early days it's one of the biggest things holding the club back.
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v Birmingham City (a) - 7/5/22
ben_the_beast replied to roversfan99's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
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He's playing a good game and looking after himself. Its a win, win situation for Mowbray. He's framed things so if he's not offered a new contract he is leaving on his terms. He'll be able to say he did x, y, z. Culture this, foundations etc and that he wasn't sacked. He can even say the owners wanted him to stay on. They're that far removed from the football World he can say they begged him to stay and nobody would be any the wiser. On the other hand he has very clearly left the door open just enough to not burn bridges if a new contract is incoming. Can't blame him either really. It's his career. He's protecting his future earning potential and Venkys have allowed him to control the narrative with their continued silence. Its even reached a point now whereby he's so in control of that narrative that should they want him to stay, he'll know there is no plan for his departure and he can demand what he wants. If he worked in any other industry I'd be applauding him.
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I think Ainsworth is a motivational bloke at lower levels but as soon as he is up against those with something about them he'll be found out. I'm also a little uncomfortable with somebody coming in who's such a huge Rovers fan. I feel he'd just be incredibly grateful to be here and it may silence his voice if things need to be told straight. Yes I want someone who respects our history as a club but I'm not sure he's the one. Primarily I want someone who is just going to win football matches.
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There will be a whole range of clubs after him but Scot Twine banged in 4 goals for Mk Dons at the weekend. I think he has something like 33 goals + assists for the season now at the age of 22. As it stands we wouldn't have a hope of getting him since if he's to move on I'm sure he'll have his pick of a few clubs. But he's the type of player that if we did have the club in order, with a new and attractive manager and backroom team in place quickly, we could be swooping in for him.
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v PNE (a) - 25/4/22
ben_the_beast replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Mowbray talking about them performing now that the pressure has been removed. I'm pretty certain the correlation was the fact he started with the formation he's been switching too at half time every game after giving the opposition a 45 minute headstart. It's always the way with him. He's stubborn and takes a huge amount of time to switch things up bar rotating Square pegs in a certain formation. It looks as though we've left it too late. If only he'd done this a few games back. However history does say that when we finally stumble on that winning formula it is followed by a real purple patch. If and it's a massive if we can sneak into the playoffs, there is suddenly reason to have some real hope. -
v PNE (a) - 25/4/22
ben_the_beast replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I'm not actually watching but all I can do is be pissed off. Its so predictable that we pull out a performance once the playoffs are basically out of reach. Nothing could be more Mowbray. -
My bet is the season ends. He's still here. He'll say its in the owners hands. Still nothing. Everyone will be off on their holidays. Still nothing. Nobody will know whether we have a manager or not, including Mowbray. Then sometime late June we'll find out if there's the dreaded India trip or finally we'll get some news he's finally gone. Only for us to wait another month for a replacement to come in. I draw all of that from 12 years experience of the Venkys
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I thought Atwell got every big decision correct
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Mowbray is a man with a very fragile ego. He can't take criticism. He takes no accountability. Our owners are like parents who pander to this as they also don't hold him accountable. I think Mowbray genuinely does think he's an hounable guy, but a fragile ego can make you blind. And when it comes to the actual business of football. He's not very good. There are worse than him, but he's definitely below average. All exasperated by owners who never hold anybody to account and allow things to rot. If he flies to India he'll have a new contract. My hope is they ghost each other. He's arrogant enough to think he deserves better. They're spineless enough to avoid upsetting him.
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It's because we're in a cycle. I'm fairly certain if a fair wind blows and a manager who sucks up to the owners comes along the money will be there again. Mowbray spaffed his lot up the wall in 2 seasons with the above mentioned transfers and some crazy contracts. We've had to downgrade to not fall foul of ffp. I'm certain that after the money saving season we've had if Mowbray was looking like the messiah he's painted himself as then he'd have decent money again in the summer. We can point to recent transfer windows as an argument we're not being backed, but that's like looking at form in isolated stints rather than ongoing trends. It can be skewed to suit an agenda. Not that, that is what you're doing, but Mowbray has been backed. He just blew his load all in one go.
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Regardless of his reign as a whole. Surely 90% of the fan base is in agreement now. Mowbray out!
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Exactly. It would make sense for him. A lot more money. No need to move his family. Negative being that it is disrespectful to Rovers fans. But will that be enough to influence him. With Dyche leaving this morning though Burnley do now represent somewhat of a risk, career wise.
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It's one of the most frustrating things about Gallagher and about our coaching set up. Gally is a big strong bloke. If somebody just sat him down and just tried to get him to stop actually going for these long balls as headers he and we would be so much better. All he needs to do is position himself and let it hit him. Chest it, let it bounce off his thigh, anything. If that happens the balls going to be in a 5 yard radius. Graham was an expert at it. I remember somebody telling me Fellaini rarely headed the ball. When I then specifically watched him it was true. 75% of balls into him he took on his chest. What we see is Gallagher galloping across the pitch and launching himself at the long ball. Rather than it being kicked too him and him just standing his ground. This galloping leap is actually quite a hard technique to master so it's no wonder he misjudges the flight of the ball half the time. And the most frustrating thing is that on the occasions he gets it right it bonces off his head at such a pace that nobody has a clue where its going and its no good to anyone.
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v Blackpool (h) - 9/4/22
ben_the_beast replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Well put. I agree tactics have advanced dramatically, especially at the top level. Data is obviously a huge thing in football now too and all added together it can become very easy to get completely lost in a mindfield of ideas, information, analysis and ultimately confusion. It's no coincidence we were doing pretty well when it was all fairly simple. 3 big lads at the back put their heads and boots in. We had low possession and got the ball forward quickly. When we had the ball the aim was to get up the pitch and score a goal. If you can pull it off then there is obviously a place for the fluidity you see at the top level. But there's also a place for simplicity. We've struggled against clubs that are direct. Keinan Davies, Gary Medine, Matt Godden, the Luton lads. Our battering ram plays on the wing. Physicality is a great leveler. Burnley have survived for years doing it. How many broken noses have our back 3 seen this year? Each one of them has had blood pouring out their faces in the last month or so. You can get away with it at this level even more. We've got some talented players. Keinan Davies especially. Could you imagine us if we'd loaned him in. What a difference he'd have made.