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Ah, then I'd just consider whether to activate it dependent on what happens between now and the end of the season. More than likely I wouldn't bother. It seems stupid to me to be in negotiations with him now, but I guess Eustace clearly likes him as he has been involved in every game and played more minutes than the others in his position.

I didn't realise that, but you're right, he's played in every league game this season, wow! ....and scored 1 goal and notched 1 assist, from left and right midfield/forward. In 20 games. Less goal contributions than Travis, a CM (2 goals, 1 assist). The same as Hyam, a CB. Looking at similar positions, half of what Dolan (2 goals, 2 assists) in 18 games, Weimann (4 goals) in 15 games, and Joe Rankin Costello (2 goals, 2 assists) in 13 games, with some games spent at CM and RB, have contributed, all in less games. Erm, bit shit really isn't it? Btw, minutes comparison makes him look even worse next to Weimann and JRC. Hedges: 1,289 minutes (1 GC per 644.5 minutes aka 1 every 7.16 games) JRC: 726 minutes (1 GC per 181.5 minutes aka 1 every 2.016 games Weimann: 720 minutes (1 GC per 180 minutes aka per 2 games)

I'd agree...I mean, at most I'd consider offering him a one year extension, if he stays fit and moderately consistent til March-ish (when I'd start negotiations). Depending on what he's on, and what our budget is likely to be. But if he wanted a raise or more years I'd end negotiations right there (if I even started them). He's been ok in spurts, but there's never been a run of form where he has felt like a matchwinner more than very occasionally. Quite frankly, we can do better, even on the cheap if we're smart. If he was a symptom of that, he'd be a lot more expensive. He was a very small fee (not free as RF99 said) and will be on a fairly low wage for a Championship player. He's a symptom of cheapskate ownership and a dried up transfer budget for years now.

We gave virtually all of those players a fair crack of the whip. Sometimes an unfair crack of the whip (see Tyler Morton). We didn't see them get rave reviews in their first appearances, peter off a little bit in the next couple, then get dropped from the bench entirely and play them in far less games than they'd played the prior season in the Prem. I can't think of one example where that's happened here.

Garrett's stats for Bristol: Appearances (Starts) 6 (3) Goals (Assists) 0 (0) xG 0.22 Shots (On Target) 4 (1) Pass Accuracy 81.1% Chances Created 3 Tackles Won 81.8% Duels Won 60% Aerial Duels Won 45.5% Recoveries 10 Obviously I haven't watched him, but those look like solid stats for a CM in minimal game time. Certainly not 'get frozen out of the whole matchday squad in a team that aren't even doing well' stats.

And regardless of what RF99 said, I do think the piss has been taken with Garrett. If he doesn't play any more games by January he will have played 7 games in half a season. He managed 21 games last season for us, so averaged out, 50% more game time in a far superior team in a far superior league. I wouldn't loan anyone to Bristol for the next three seasons personally, and I'd be telling them why.

Garrett and O'Riordan not even making matchday squads....definitely getting recalled. Turned out to be pointless loans, shame, they both should have been able to secure reasonable game time. Garrett I expected to be a regular, O'Riordan a squad player and hopefully showing promise. Just a wasted half season.

Keep your jinxing comments in your head please.

No wonder they've gone as 'anon', I'm sure a few Rovers fans would wanna slap them for that..shut up man, we need him!

Didn't think Pickering had that in his locker, unlucky not to seal the game there.

Mad that Gueye will get an assist for that 🤣 Can't believe he didn't smash that home, nice for Beck to get his first goal I think it is?

For all his flaws, Gueye doesn't remotely strike me as someone who is afraid to mix it with defenders. I expect he was trying to peel off the defender, which is a common and often effective tactic.

I already answered that on page 19. Nobody here is trying to take it off him, primarily because we don't have the power to do so, but also because obviously we want him to be the scorer for his confidence. That makes utterly zero difference to any objective debate about whether he did in fact score it or not. Emotive bias doesn't factor into that. What we want to be true isn't necessarily true.

It has clearly been frozen too late for anything to be clear.

That's the Premier League's committee not the EFL's. Nothing was mentioned of how often the EFL's Dubious Goals Committee meets. When is anything at stake with such a thing, beyond accurate records and maybe a dispute over top scorer (which could only be known near or at season's end). When does anyone lose out, unless it's two teammates arguing over who scored? Yet it tends to be ones like this - was it the scoring team's player or an OG? Why would anyone be so aggrieved? Following this line of logic I'd say the panels, Prem or EFL, would never meet. We've definitely had players get goals chalked off by them before.

Not only is that blurry as shit but it looks more like, if anything, his head isn't on it at all. Again, I'd need to see it in a slow-mo hd to feel confident. But he'll either be allowed to keep it or not.

Sorry I don't understand what you're trying to say. How does any of that mean it won't be looked at?

Those are always the circumstances when a goal may be an OG. Changes nothing.

I think the senior starts are more valuable for him right now than sitting on our bench.

Surely they will have to look at it to determine whether he touched it. You only said 'if' and 'I think' about it yourself. I've watched replays from several angles, several times, and I'm no clearer whether he touched it. Needs a slow-mo HD look.

I think that's a possibility, but I still haven't seen a replay where I can be certain he got a touch on it at all. If he did then as you say he should get the goal.

That was my first impression watching it in real time too. The replays, however, make it look much more dubious, so we'll have to see. Agree it's important for the player and therefore us.

Nobody on here is trying to do that, chiefly as none of us has the power to do that. If anything I'm sure we all want him to get to keep it. The game is over, we won, we're all ecstatic. If people want to now have an objective discussion about whether he actually headed it, which is certainly questionable without seeing a HD slow motion replay from the right angle, I don't see a problem with that. Ultimately the dubious goals panel will make the decision one way or the other and that will be the end of the matter.

I think experience alongside experience is benefitting Hyam. He may have found the younger, less experienced but fitter and faster Carter harder to read in order to know how to act accordingly himself.

I was over it the second I posted it until you piped up. You said he did nothing wrong, well, he did. A clean sheet doesn't automatically mean a flawless goalkeeping performance.