They're not cheap if you can't get to more than half the matches for whatever reason though. And I've told you so many times, we're not talking about fans who want to be there already. We're talking about enticing in potential supporters who don't have the Rovers bug yet or who've so far lost it that they might need encouraging back. ATM you wouldn't say to a mate, " Rovers are at home this afternoon. Do you fancy going?" because you know it might cost them £30 basic. Cinema prices have been quoted as being as high, but I've never paid more than a tenner each. The other things people quote are food and drink prices which I never pay for at the cinema. And many Vue cinemas are now 4.99 any film, any time. I'm not saying Rovers are any more expensive than other clubs. I don't know if they are or not. Merely that if they got more imaginative with pricing they might pull more in. The hardcore have paid for their season ticket and regular walk ons might bring a mate or family member who doesn't usually attend if there was a deal. I just don't get what the club has to lose now by trying it. Half season ticket sales will bring in a few but again, it's a commitment many people, because of work or other things can't make

I don't want targeted advertising. I just want to be able to turn up if and when I choose to watch the match and not be charged extra if I decide to do it at the last minute.

You keep saying the product itself, ie performances on the pitch, have improved but crowds are not back. How can people engage with that product if they're not coming into the ground? Imaginative marketing is needed before people can be engaged by the product

OK. I wouldn't join a reward scheme because I wouldn't use it often enough, I wouldn't arrive 2 hours before any match. I like to be spontaneous or I have trouble persuading the person I want to go to the match with me to do so. I can get there in time to get a ticket but wouldn't preorder in case my husband/daughter/friend can't commit to coming with me. I don't think the policy of charging extra for people in that situation is dodgy, but I just think it's totally unnecessary if you want to increase attendance

So you think a half season ticket is a good promotion? It is if you can commit to matches from Christmas to the end of the season. It's not what I'm talking about. The 1875 is only a good deal again if you're going to go to enough matches. The deals that might bring people in are the kind of thing Franky listed above. Not all of them obviously, but pick a couple and try them.. We're not talking about fans who come already. Not even ones like me who will come back but just have such a busy weekend life now that I've retired that I'm very rarely free on Saturdays. We're talking about people who don't normally attend but might if something caught their imagination. New fans or seriously lapsed ones. People who need to be attracted. Who may not even know who Bennett or Mulgrew are so won't be rejoicing that they've signed new contracts. We need something that offers a bit of sparkle to go with the work ethic and togetherness now evident at the club, something to attract or reattach fans. I'm not advocating making tickets generally cheap but make them more affordable over Christmas or perhaps better in January when everyone struggles after early Christmas pay and more indulgent spending over the holidays. Do something rather than nothing. Monitor it and if there's little difference then don't repeat it. If it's successful, look for another opportunity.

No they wouldn't but they probably wouldn't need to with other spend taken into consideration. And nobody is suggesting they halve the cost. Just drop a potentially off putting surcharge and do the odd promotional offer at a time when cash is a bit tight

We do if players are available. Sometimes you just have to get players before someone else does or their price rises. Remember Souness bringing in Friedel when most of us thought our keepers were OK?

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I'm probably as old as you and I know ?

I wrote to the club when this happened and received a very shirty reply informing me that I had no right to have been sitting there for years as I had no under 16s with me. The club had happily taken my money for years after my youngest turned 16 and there had never been any issues as the BBE upper was never full so we weren't depriving anyone of a seat. The tone of the letter was so dismissive of my feelings that I wouldn't have set foot in Ewood that season if they'd offered me free tickets. I'm not saying they weren't well within their rights to ask me to sit elsewhere but there are ways of doing it that make customers feel valued and not like something the cat brought in. Making people feel welcome, like you matter, is important in any business. Dismissing their concerns, making them feel like they are an irrelevance is not good business sense. Things like charging extra for late purchase of tickets are just another way of making people less bothered about attending. I don't expect concessions from the club or to be wooed by them but nor do I expect to be made to feel irrelevant

I wasn't having a go at how you choose to spend your money or what your priorities are. Just saying that others may not be able to make the choices you make. There was a time when I went to every home game, youth games, as many away games as I could fit in. Nowadays I am retired and make different choices as to how I spend my cash and my time. But it would be nice if tickets for kids were cheap over Christmas I agree.

For me it's about the precedent it sets. Are we now going to get this for every player who has won a certain number of caps?

I spotted that too but couldn't think of an appropriate comment

From the outside, the bad management of many aspects of the club is still continuing. Once you're aggrieved, cheesed off with the club for all the things that have been done so badly over those years you take more than a little persuading that things have really not just cosmetically changed. It's just a stupid charge that doesn't for any logical reason need to be made. Other clubs, other sports, don't do it. They make it easy for fans to attend. They want fans in the ground. Rover supposedly do, but only on their terms.

We're not necessarily talking about Rovers fans though are we. Or at least not committed, diehard ones. We're talking about people who like watching football for whom Rovers is their local club who may become hooked if they can be brought into the ground or people who have been so worn down by events at Ewood over a number of years that the words enjoyable Saturday afternoon and Rovers don't quite go together in their minds anymore. They may have felt marginalised by the club in the past, even if they can see the sense of some of the decisions that annoyed them. They know the team is doing well. They realise that this is a team that works hard for each other, the manager, the fans and the club but somehow they've lost the passion that took them to Ewood whenever they could get there. They've lost the emotional connection and to get that back they need to be encouraged to attend. Anything that gets them there, any idea that's economically feasible and doesn't diminish the value of being a season ticket holder should be considered.

But getting people in the ground on match days between now and the end of the season may be what's needed to increase St sales next season

I've turned up quite often at the cinema to find there's a special offer on tickets and the person behind the counter is keen to help me get it. I've also turned up at rugby games a few minutes before the match, got tickets for the same price as if I'd been there hours before and sometimes found it includes a drink at the bar or kiosk after the match too. Not everyone imposes surcharges

You can't believe they complain about the 3 pounds surcharge or the increase in 1875 membership? Not everyone can or does prioritise attending Rovers games so that they don't think about cost in the way you seem to. For every family cash priorities are different and everything that makes it harder for people to attend matches in any way is important, especially when the ground is half empty. The point most people here seem to understand is that getting people back as season ticket holders requires getting them back into a habit. Make that habit harder than it needs to be for them means many will simply stay away.

Of course there won't be 1000s extra. Nobody is suggesting that it makes a huge difference but it's just another hurdle that the club don't need to put there. On basic wages they wouldn't need a lot more ticket staff to cope and probably no more stewards. So the cost would be covered with very few extra fans coming in. It's an excuse the club does not need to give people like me who still haven't made it to Ewood yet this season

Why? Late ticket sales are something to be encouraged in many ways. Often they're a group of people who suddenly decide to do something together. You ring a friend and say I fancy going to Rovers this afternoon.. Do you want to come with me. Hey presto. 2 more seats sold. I do it all the time with other things. Why not rovers?

Reincarnation is not biblical. In fact Jesus tells the story of the rich man and Lazarus where the rich man who's a bad'un dies, gets what he deserves and asks if the beggar Lazarus who's also died and gone to heaven can go back to warn his family and the reply is that there's no chance. Story to illustrate a completely different point but in my opinion suggests that reincarnation doesn't happen in Christian belief

I'm a Methodist local preacher who worked in a 90% Muslim school. I would discuss my faith with anyone who asked and was prepared to listen to what they had to say, but I would never have overstepped the mark and tried to belittle what they believed or in any way influenced their belief because that would not have been appropriate in my job

Now that's not true and you know it's not. Criticism of some of his apparent tactics or selection choices does not mean we don't appreciate all the other stuff we do like about him. You need to learn to separate the 2. Nobody is infallible. Nobody gets every bit of everything right every time. I don't know if you watched Michael Palin in North Korea when he was talking about one of the things we believe in the world outside dictatorships is that everyone can be criticised even if they are loved. The Korean girl found this a strange concept. There seem to be a couple of people here who feel the same way. Mowbray is appreciated and even loved by many here for his passion, his work ethic, the team spirit he's instilled, his man management skills, bringing the we're all in it together feeling back for fans, getting us promoted - the list goes on, but that doesn't mean that we have to accept everything he does without debating its merits.

Nobody doesn't think Mowbray has turned the club around, but that doesn't mean he is above being questioned or even openly criticised if people think he's got something wrong. We don't live in a place where criticism is frowned on. Of course if it turns out that your opinion is rubbish and the manager did in fact get it right then you need to be big enough to admit that too.

Absolutely true especially if your partner and a couple of kids suddenly decide they would like to come with you afterall. £12 on the cost of the tickets. My son was so reluctant to attend his first match that he and his dad missed the early goal in the match, but he had a season ticket for years after that and was a walk on at many other matches. You need to get people in. I went free for several years with school parties but had at least 15 years as a season ticket holder. That's how I know making it as easy as possible for people to get into the habit is important