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Woodgate has made a number of mistakes during his time like having an experience number 2 and good scouting and recruitment staff around him. He hasn't had this. Thats down to him and Gibson. I have said that Woodgate cant complained about being sacked haven't I. Coyle cant complained about his time at Rovers or his budget here. I have zero sympathy for him.

@roversfan99, how was championing us to sign McLaughlin when I didn't so please read carefully. I posted we were linked with him from several different reporters. I asked the board if anyone seen him which if I am correct Tyrone said he had. I mentioned us signing him a couple of years when he played for Burton in the championship. Since then I haven't seen much of him. Also when did we make another play for Bauer after trying to sign 2 years ago? Also why is promotion is unlikely when we are 1 point of playoffs and with 8 games to go and in the first game after the lockdown the performance was very good? Also bluebruce and Roversfan99, I wouldn't be making any signings right now until we know which league we are in. Bluebruce, I think its flawed to make any signings right now even if they are available right now to sign for us. We shouldn't committing to anyone at this stage. If it means we miss then fine, From reading a report yesterday it would appear that the transfer window will remain open to the end of October, So you are looking at season starting in my opinion at the start of the season

I am fully aware of the economy and businesses Sparks and what going on financial. It's far from business outside football but clubs are spending money at PL level. Who next what Rovers transfers will be like. I expect frees and loans with one or 2 key players sold unless FFP rules are relax as UEFA have done. Plus What will Venkys do.

When is the new season starting? Why sign anyone before we knew which league we are in?

Well we cant right now anyway as season not finish and transfer window not open in England

Mowbray and his recruitment staff will have target lists for both scenarios.

13 signings is hardly limited resources IMO. Warnock was happy to take the job in those circumstances. Other managers would have done. So can we agree to disagree cant we ain't going to agree arent we?

India is in the middle of Coronavirus pandemic so not likely Mowbray or Waggott would be able travel tbh..is it safe either?

And you defending him. He had a budget that he was happy with to come here so he cant complained or you. He signed mostly rubbish players. Would Warnock or Adkins have bought better? I would say so. 13 signings that summer. 5 good or decent signings rest not good enough or injury prone.

Tony Mowbray transfer plans and how it will help Blackburn Rovers evolve https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/football-news/tony-mowbray-transfer-plans-how-18474116 Changes in the scouting department has seen Bruno Reis inherit a new role as Head of European Scouting, with Rovers extending their scope into regions of Eastern and Southern Europe. "If I don't know how much money I'm spending I can't be throwing it at people. Who's to say there's not going to be salary caps brought in, or the budget isn't going to be cut considerably. "I can't offer people anything while we don't have budgets and we don't know how much you have to spend because that's how you have to work."

Seen much worst than Walton in my Time as Rovers fan. Fettis, Alan Miller, Enckelman, Steele(went worst after his 1st season here)

Warnock was more than happy with that budget and know we had to sell 2 players. But he had line up 2 signings in Bamba and Hoilett as he admitted in articles before. He signed 13 players with this so called not a good budgets. He signed some shocking players. His choices. He tried to sign Stuart Armstrong from Celtic for 1 million. That bid was rejected.

Very judgemental there Stuart. Yes we need 2 keepers this summer whatever division but you cant sign anyone now cos we dont know which league we in. We have 2 targets last summer to replace Raya but neither happened due to different circumstances. Walton has improved over the season and hasnt been any worse than Raya was for us.

plenty of my post was relevant. Warnock was coming to Rovers to become manager to work with the same budget as Coyle, so making excuses for his poor recruitment. Warnock was happy with the budget. Do you not remember that conversation me, yourself and another person had on twitter of how Coyle was appointed and his budget. Graham, Mulgrew, Gallagher, Feeney and Stokes wages weren't cheap were they? Did Coyle need to make 13 signings and waste money on 3 loan signings that never had any sought of impact.

I agree with Darrenbot that we need to wait before committing to any signings for next season as we don't know if we get promote or not. Now this wont stop our recruitment team and staff scouting, researching and formulating different transfer plans and targets for next season. You would hope that Mowbray has decide on the positions we need new signings in after the seasons finish.

Warnock was happy to come and work in those circumstances and from what we know he was set to be appoint as manager at Rovers. But some how Coyle got the job, Now I remember a conversation on twitter me, you and someone else who I wont posted his name where he told you about how Coyle was appointed and the budget he had. Have you forget that? also did you not see the article that the Football league paper did on how Coyle got the job from under Warnock? Plus didn't Coyle try to sign Stuart Armstrong in the summer who would have been a good signing for us if he had got him. So Coyle knew the situation before he joined so I dont have much sympathy for him Smith also worked under a similar model at Brentford where they have Philip Giles as Director of football

Gibson makes the final decision to appointed Woodgate at the time and it was known in football that he would be appointed before the season finished. No excuses for Woodgate as he know how the club wanted to move forward by cutting the wage bill and bringing through more youth players. on your point about Woodgate not being control of signings. It was something that was mention on the podcast of not the top 20 which focus on EFL today where it mentions that Woodgate has said publicly he wasn't sole responsible for the signings bujt early in signings he said he was. I will look for the Woodgate's quotes and posted them if I can find them. I think Woodgate lack a experience recruitment people next to him helping him. on the Coyle point I have replied on roversfan99 on this issue so I wont go over it again

Yes I agree with your 1st point that Gibson made a huge mistake in appointing Woodgate. His last team selection at the weekend I never understood at all cos it was so strange. But I would be asking questions of Steve Gibson and the process of why he picked Woodgate after Pulis and the results behind that. I think alot of clubs have transfer teams or committee who pick the signings not just the manager decision nowadays. Pochettino at Spurs last summer made reference to him not have overall say on signings or Jokanovic at Fulham when promoted last time, Managers or head coaches don't have final say which signings come in, Which is fine if the head coach is comfortable with that like Dean Smith who has worked under that Brentford and now Villa. Look at the signings he made which was made which was 6 free signings, 1 cash buy and 6 loans in the Summer. Players like Graham, Mulgrew and Stokes would have been fairly good wages. Coyle signed some poor players like Stokes, Brown and loan signings of Samuelsen, Byrne and Hendrie was a waste of time. Warnock has said that he cant give it up today,

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well that was Gibson's decision to appoint him. Yes he could have got Mark Warburton for example. The best thing Woodgate did was bring through some decent players from Academy like Keeper Pears, right back Spence, left back Coulson. The signings were rubbish there but did he make the signings or part of a transfer team that decide who to sign. I dont think Gibson give him the right support team off the pitch.

Warnock's job is to keep them. No plans on whether he stay for next season

Who knows what going to happen next season budget or signings next season

Hilton is better than both.

I would say Hilton is a better keeper than Fisher is. Fisher was number 2 at MK Dons and Northampton this season where he played no league games at all. Waste of season for him

That's why its crucial you have the right management team and structure around the club to allow you to do this. It was reported before Pulis left last summer that Woodgate would get the job. So wait so long to appoint him.