Let me amend that by saying they're not elite as in saliba or van diik. But Argentina won 3 tournaments without elite defenders. I'm not some huge England fanboy who isn't given to critising England.

As for rice the amount of criticism he gets is bonkers. He's not going to control a game, he wins the ball, plays it simple. That's his job and there's no one better in world football at doing that. He needs an Adam Wharton alongside him to dictate play and release rice to get forward. He's also better on the ball than people think

I totally disagree. Konsa and ghuei have proven to be excellent centrebacks. Stones when fit is world class

Agree somewhat but I like that he wants the ball. He's got a swagger. At least he doesn't hide like foden

I totally agree. My goodness we agree on something

Yep lol but it's constructive negativity

Jude bellingham is England's best player

Haven't been on this thread since yesterday because I was expecting a barrage of negativity. Yes it wasn't great. I was bored shitless. Take into account Albania only lost by 1 goal against Italy and Spain at the euros and drew with Croatia. These aren't easy games. We pressed alot better than under Southgate and it could have been more than 2-0. The negatives. Foden never turns up for England. We passed the ball too much. The positives, myles Lewis-skelly was immense. Bellingham was his usual marauding self. Konsa looked excellent at the back. I thought rashford was pretty poor. I'm looking forward to seeing saka and Palmer in this team. Madueke gives us far more pace on the wing. Also Wharton should be playing deep, allowing rice to get forward. I've no interest in debating roversfan on the England topic because we never agree.

It was a friendly. We beat France 4-0 in a friendly a year ago

Agree with everything u say but I would say the first 45 minutes against the dutch

Their forward options are pretty pitiful

Safe standing should be only for 6 footers

Wharton will wow tuchel in training and get drafted in

Yes it was the Monday night. I always kept thinking it was the night we won it. I remember going with my mum sister and neices and brother in law

I was at Ewood in the evening when they paraded the trophy around the ground

I got blocked by him years ago for asking a simple question

Why bother talking about it. Most fans don't give a shit. There will be no protests. As long as rovers exists then fans will happily go along and not utter a word

Malta not playing!?

Eustace already proving he was the right appointment for derby

Should have quoted booth my mistake

According to BBC Dennis is playing rightback/right wingback

Dennis at right back?

Similar not simpering

Gifted isn't the right word. It wasn't a difficult route but alot of teams that have win world cup or euros have had simpering paths. I remember France getting an easy path on the way to winning the world cup. Portugal stunk their way to winning the euros in 2016. People shouldn't diminish southgate's achievements