I feel for you mate. It’s not easy. I’ve mentioned this previously but the 98% of Rovers fans who know zilch about what happened following Venky’s takeover need to know. Otherwise I feel you’ll only get a trickle of a response.

The only thing in Preston and Burnley’s trophy cabinets is a pile of dust. A few years back, a Burnley supporting friend of mine had a dig by asking if we were still full time. My response was, no we’re all part time now with the exception of one employee who is still full time. He’s the guy who cleans the trophy cabinet. It’s a big one, you see.

Where obscene amounts of money can be ‘earned’ with very little effort, unscrupulous individuals rise to the surface. Football is rife with them.

Gav, Ally McCoist and Kris Boyd..

There is no myth. No one has said the likes of Celtic and, to a lesser degree, Rangers would have an immediate chance of winning the Premier League. There is too much of a disparity in income for that to be a sensible suggestion. Aston Villa’s (hardly a middling club these days) annual turnover for 2023-24 stood at €310m, which equates to circa £270m, against Celtic’s £125m. So well over double that of Celtic. Ollie Watkins is probably worth nearly as much as the whole Celtic first eleven alone. There just is no comparison at present. However, given a run of say five years in the EPL and, benefiting from the massive jump in tv revenues, sponsorship, corporate revenues etc., I’ve no doubt that both Celtic and Rangers would make a good fist of being there or thereabouts. The fan bases of both Scottish clubs are huge and most of the clubs in the EPL would give anything to have the same. You need to go to Glasgow, stay up there all day, sample the atmosphere in the city and take in a game to understand just how big the two clubs are. You’ll never get it, if you don’t. Anyway, Celtic and Rangers playing in the EPL will never happen. The current chairmen of the English clubs would be scared stiff of the added competition and, therefore, never vote in favour, if ever the opportunity arose. *Edit.. Manchester City’s t/o for the same period £715m!

Yep, I remember it and very good it was too. The other main problem with all this, is finding someone with the energy and drive to carry it forward. By someone, I really mean several people. I’m done with it now. I was just putting forward a suggestion as to how I thought the problem should be tackled. I’m weary with it all and my apathy towards the club these days is as much because of the limp wristed lack of action from the supporter base as it is because of Venky’s and their stooges. If you have a problem, in any walk of life, you analyse it, draw up a plan of action and carry that plan through in an attempt to resolve it. You won’t always succeed but at least you can say that you tried. The vast majority of the current crop of Rovers fans can’t look themselves in the mirror and say that. Over and out.

And therein lies the problem. The full fan base has no idea of the ‘shenanigans’ that went on at the time of the takeover and in the year or two afterwards. A select few who took action knew. The delegation that went to the authorities knew. A number of posters on here knew and that number has since grown over the years with folk passing on stories and info etc. The stark reality, however, is that probably around 98% of our fan base is ignorant of the facts and, after all this time, would no doubt have trouble actually believing what went on. I’m too old for this sort of thing now. It’s up to the youth of Blackburn and East Lancs if they care to step forward. As a starting point (if anything tangible were ever to recommence), I would plaster bullet points all over social media and local press with a view to arranging talks at a variety of venues in Blackburn and the wider area. Working men’s clubs, village halls and similar places. Get the fan base educated. Give them the facts. Rumble Venky’s, rumble Waggott, rumble the Shadow Man. You would never get the 98% on board but 25% would be a good start. If 25% of a current fan base of say 12k were willing to ‘take action,’ how good would that be? That would be 3k able and willing to ‘make a nuisance’ of themselves, in whatever way was felt necessary. The KEY to all this is to get those not in the know, IN THE KNOW. At that point in time, there should be a ground swell of support for the cause. It would be a point in time when something could happen. What that something is, that’s for others to decide. If our support does nothing, the status quo will remain.

What took you so long Matt? 😂

Not a cat in hells chance of that happening mate. I used to bang the drum for this sort of thing happening and within minutes the cap doffers and hand wringers were on here with their bleating about how it wouldn’t work. Even Home Counties, mard arse Reading fans went on the pitch, en masse, a season or two back, to demonstrate against their owners. Rovers fans have nothing to offer but, remember… If fans do nothing, the status quo will remain. I quoted this a good few seasons ago and I will be quoting it again in ten seasons time. If our support can’t be bothered to try and run these bar stewards out of our club, we’ll be stuck with them until the end of time.

That’s an interesting comparison. Never heard of folk comparing the Scottish Premiership with French top flight football before. I don’t take too much interest in French football, so I can’t really comment although a fair few leagues in Europe will surely have worse weather than those in France.

Good stuff. A mate of mine used to work at Stanley and, during their rise through the lower (non) leagues, we watched them away a few times. Their away support, then, was quite good with absolutely loads of flags and banners. Much better on a pro rate basis than their home support. Hope they make some decent money out of the tie.

Looking at the Stanley site, their away allocation sold out in mid December. Can’t see how many they were allocated but the away section at Anfield ‘typically’ holds 3k. Can’t see that they asked for any more and I think it would have been unlikely for them to shift the whole of the lower tier. So, presumably 3k.

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You’re getting embarrassing pal. If me posting about Celtic winning a game on a thread about Scottish football, is going to have you in a fit of tears, you need to see either a doctor or a psychiatrist. You were quick to point out to me recently that you were ‘as hard as fuck.’ I’ve seen Rovers get beaten by Burnley a few times over the years. These things happen. You shrug your shoulders and get on with it.

Absolutely spot on. Waggott and Suhail must be pissing their sides in the knowledge that there isn’t a set of supporters like those down at Ewood anywhere in England. Whatever downsizing measures they bring in, Jackanory stories about fax machines and not pressing send buttons, utter bullcrap on transfer budgets, etc. etc., the fans do next to nothing. They (the hierarchy at the club) couldn’t have it any easier. Where is the youth of Blackburn and East Lancashire? These should be the ones with the energy and drive to do something about this continued mess. Problem is, the ones who know all about the shenanigans that went on, ten or more years ago, have been brow beaten almost into submission and the younger fan base, who must be the ones to bring about change, don’t really know what went on. Unless something is done, the status quo will remain. I know the hand wringers will be replying to this post within minutes but I can virtually guarantee one thing. Five, even ten years from now, folk will still be bleating about the situation which will not have changed one bit.