
martonrover
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If that is the case re - the Facebook post and you have an impersonator, I apologise. People can be happy about wining a dead rubber, but it is still a dead rubber. Are we going to qualify for the Play Offs as a result of winning yesterday? No. A Win, loss or draw yesterday would not affect our league status at the end of the season = dead rubber. As for the last part, have a read over several of my recent posts, including replies to yourself. Finally , you are not doing anything noble or worthy of praise by attending a football match. You have no sense of perspective.
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Thank you for your feedback 😂 You either do not understand or do not want to understand the meaning of a “dead rubber”. How many times are you going to repeat yourself about season ticket sales not being an issue? We shall see. You were on the club’s Facebook post before the Sheffield Wednesday game stating you hoped Ismael would incur a head injury as he might see sense, so quit it with the holier than thou act. Don’t get too lonely at Ewood Mausoleum next season.
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Once again, you are attributing remarks to me that I didn’t make. I didn’t say that supporters should not have enjoyed the win and performance yesterday, but was pointing out the win should be viewed within its context. That match, and every other until the end of the season, is the very definition of a “dead rubber”, because there is nothing tangible at stake, (ie promotion or relegation). At a more stable, ambitious and well run club, performances like yesterday could legitimately be viewed as building blocks. At Venky Rovers, God knows what the team will look like come August. I know you don’t agree that lost season ticket sales will have any effect on the ownership. You don’t need to keep reminding me. Loss of ticket revenue is the only form of protest that has any chance of catching the owners’ eyes. Whilst I have every respect for people trying to make life uncomfortable within the stadium for the hired goons (Suhail, Waggott and Gestede), they are still paying for the privilege of being there, and that is a clear win for the owners and this regime. I was working yesterday, but might make it next Saturday. Then it will be away games only from next season, so another empty seat to add to the many thousand at Ewood Park. I hope to be back at Ewood Park in my lifetime. We shall see……. Each to their own. No problem with you or anyone else attending, but my emotional attachment to the club is in hiatus unless / until the ownership changes.
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It wasn’t aimed at people on here, but at the evidently cerebrally challenged amongst our fan base. I don’t make that sort of remark lightly, but am afraid it’s the only logical explanation for some of comments posted on mainstream social media. Some people clearly are being fooled, and actually still have faith in this ownership.
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.........what's left of them. If you and a few thousand others are happy with being set up to fail year after year, that's fine, enjoy. Dead rubber wins don't excite me at all, and evidently I'm not alone in that thinking, as the thousands of empty seats illustrate. Yesterday was like choosing the winning numbers for the lottery after the draw had been made.
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It's a meaningless result. Too late, (again). Where was this kind of result when we still had a chance? The whole culture at the club is entirely wrong, and the annual post Christmas collapse is a leading symptom.
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v Millwall (h) - Good Friday 18/4/2025, 3pm
martonrover replied to philipl's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Exactly. It’s deceitful and is stringing people along under false pretences. Other than Suhail and Waggott, it’s an ever changing cast, but the end result is always the same. Failure. My eyes are open, and a couple of dead rubber wins don’t change anything. -
v Millwall (h) - Good Friday 18/4/2025, 3pm
martonrover replied to philipl's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Win, lose or draw, it’s all just an academic exercise until the end of the season. Then it’ll be the usual shenanigans in the Summer, no doubt. It’ll be the team that takes the field in August that matters. Best case scenario - another pretend play off push. Worst case scenario - relegation. -
v Millwall (h) - Good Friday 18/4/2025, 3pm
martonrover replied to philipl's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
It’s all built on sand, as the Summer will no doubt illustrate. Same old, winning games when the pressure is off. -
Today’s result will no doubt fool a few.
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v Millwall (h) - Good Friday 18/4/2025, 3pm
martonrover replied to philipl's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
….Which surely means you DO agree. It’s pretty much exactly the point I’m making. For me it’s the hollowest of hollow drubbings and means nothing in the bigger picture. However, no doubt it will be enough to fool the goldfish memory brigade. -
v Millwall (h) - Good Friday 18/4/2025, 3pm
martonrover replied to philipl's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Again, the irony of this type of performance and result when it’s too late. Credit where it’s due, but it only serves to emphasise the rut and cycle of futility the club is in. -
Let’s agree to disagree. I think we could be looking at far greater season ticket losses next season. I’m not talking about a couple of thousand. No point in labouring this conversation any further.
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There will be a tipping point, I’m sure of it. The attendances have fallen, but have still been respectable for the Championship. It would undoubtedly put pressure on if they fall off a cliff edge.
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It’s the one thing Suhail and Waggott can’t gloss over or put a spin on. If sales are very low it will stand out very clearly.
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I’ll agree to disagree. If the numbers drop ridiculously low, life will become very uncomfortable, even from thousands of miles away.
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Get behind the managed decline of the club, FFS
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It’s a fact. Season ticket sales have dropped, but not yet to ridiculously low levels. Counting season ticket holders, they can still pump out an over inflated attendance figure of around 15,000, even when the ground is evidently at least two thirds empty. That may well be different next season. It’s the one form of protest with a cat in hell’s chance of working. Turning the tap off.
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It has more chance of making a difference than continuing to pay money in. What that is doing is feeding the disease, (the owners). The only way to get rid of the disease is to starve it. Just to clarify once again, I bear no malice to anyone who renews / buys tickets, and in some cases there are very good reasons, (eg attending with kids or elderly parents). I also get the “it’s our club and I’m not going to let Venkys stop me from going” argument, but for me I’d now rather step away and try and remember the club I supported home and away between 1978 - 2010. This is no longer Blackburn Rovers for me, but merely a swarm of parasites moving a corpse. If you buy tickets you are helping to prop up this pale imitation of the club, and potentially killing it with kindness.
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Sorry, whilst I respect anyone’s decision to do so, it is a fact that the more people that buy season or match tickets, the more chance the status quo is maintained. People can dress it up any which way they want about where the money goes, but indirectly, and ultimately, it makes it easier for the owners to keep this futile cycle going for longer. It will make change take longer.
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Reading this sort of thing makes me glad I won’t be there next season. Some people deserve how the club is being run.
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I can honestly say that, as long as I’m still treading the planet, I will return if / when Venkys go. I will miss going in the meantime, but can see the bigger picture. Every ticket bought helps keep Venkys in.
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Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas
martonrover replied to DuffsLeftPeg's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Matt Smith is on record as saying he would like to buy the club, but would need to get others on board. That is the difficult part. -
Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas
martonrover replied to DuffsLeftPeg's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
It’s the only effective method of protest left. The home attendances are too small to mount an effective protest within the stadium, and many who do still attend would not join in. -
I'm not saying all non - UK Rovers fans can be tarred with the same brush, but a lot of the stuff this guy posts indicates how detached from the reality of the situation he is. One visit to the stadium on matchday would provide a hard dose of reality. He simply doesn't get it.