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Your last paragraph is simply not true.Check it back.Brereton was made available by forest they needed money brought in as they had spent big that summer.It was highly publicised at the time that Forest were touting him to other clubs and even hired an agent to get a deal done.They stated at the time they wouldnt be selling for less than 7 million. And as for Balaji wanting to show off to his mates over making profit on a young player(you mentioned Rhodes earlier).The owners did not want to sell Rhodes, i know for a fact that we turned down bigger bids than the 1 we eventually accepted and Rhodes wanted out way before we sold him. And even after we sold him we hardly made a profit considering we paid 8 million for him and been paying him 35 grand a week

The owners pay for every signing so what makes the Brererton deal different that Balajis name is being brought into it? Luke Freeman who we had multiple bids turned down for that summer was 26. Mowbray had money to spend that summer,we had multiple bids turned down for other players.Forest didnt make Brererton available until very late in rhe window, even hiring an agent to get him sold.He was offered to the club And if the club remit is to sign young domestic players with room for growth and potential profit then what is the problem with that? Surely that would be the sensible way to run our club with the income we have.

Yet Mowbray confirmed that Celina who joined Swansea for 8 million was close only for Swansea offered better wages. If the money was only for a young striker how do you explain the multiple bids for Luke Freeman at QPR that summer, a 26 year old and an attacking midfielder? If thats your opinion about Brereton then fair enough but why have you been praising Mowbray for the signing so?

Johnson had one year left on his derby contract actually. Derby thought his legs were gone so Mowbray gives the green light for a 2 + 1 year contract for him?Great decision making and management Where is your evidence Brererton was a Balaji signing?

And not every player has been signed for a profit.Isnt that the point im making with those 3 mentioned?

It isnt speculative, if you want to believe those players took a significant drop in wages to come here without something to compensate it then id say you are living in a fairytale.

No i understood but the other deals Ayala,Johnson ,Holtby werent really free transfers over the terms of their contracts and whatever signing on fees involved were expensive deals, Brererton is on a reported 4k a week here.Ayala ,Holtby and Johnson on 20+ at their previous clubs.No return on investment coming from that outlay and commitment unless promotion

Yes but giving 2 and 3 year deals to the likes of Ayala,Johnson and Holtby and then the shorter term players , Rodwell and Downing, these fellas were on more money at their previous clubs than our highest earner, logically they would have been compensated with significant signing on fees.Johnson isnt walking away from a lucrative year at Derby to come here for a lot less.

His agent was drawing up the contract and allegedly practically running the club at the time

How do you know it was Balaji who wanted Brererton?Have you evidence for this?Not according to Mowbray when he was waxing lyrical about Brereton when the signing was done. Gallagher was on 20+ at Southampton, he took a reduction to sign on here so he will be on 17/18 a week and will have got a nice signing on bonus too

We have a limited budget though.A manager will want to make his own team.Would you be happy if we spend in January and then no money available for the next guy? If pre contract signings are made it only points in one direction and thats Mowbray being here next season.We were linked with Hedges before Park even joined the club.

Plus the league is incredibly weak this season.We are doing ok but a couple of defeats in a row would put us mid table/botton half. Mowbray isnt the man to take us foward but like you i worry this ok start in a a very weak division will lead to a new contract for Mowbray

In the summer maybe but midway through the season with the current manager having only a few months left on his deal?If he is to be replaced then we should be keeping what money we have available for the next guy.

Yes but they have just paid 16.6 million into the club for it.For it to be something underhand i presume the owners would be making a significant profit on that 16.6 million if they were to sell it on?

No it isnt the owners could have sold it externally at any time.They own the club and all its assets. At the time it was done the club needed that money for ffp reasons. If the owners sell the land on how much are they likely to get for it?I presume with your theory it will be a lot more than the 16.6 million they have already paid for it? Whats changed from last year when they pulled out of building housing on it due to the locals opposing it?Is it likely housing will be built on that land? If you can give an answer to these questions then maybe il start believing these nonsencical theories.

There is absolutely no evidence to support the thought the owners are planning on putting us into admin or selling the club If any of that was a remote possibility at this time then they wouldnt be trying to work around ffp by selling the STC.They would have taken the points deduction and the transfer embargo which would have given them an excuse if they had no plans to spend in the transfer market

They own the club and all the assets that come with it so at ANY point they could have sold the STC

Mowbray is on record saying Pickering is number 1 left back.It will be fitness/illness related

Pickering must not be fit enough.Its the only logical reason for him not being involved

He has a 12 month option, like all the others had

Sharpe says the club have confirmed it to him Presumably the reason it hasnt been triggered is the club have offered him a new contract and are hoping he will sign it

He cant go for free this summer the club have a years option

A few weeks before that conversation with Paul Mani a poster on here was saying that Waggot was around saying that Lenihen was close but Rothwell and Nyambe are proving difficult.It was the matchday prior to Poveda being brought in.

You used the word boring, you have pulled chaddy up a load of times when he has referred to Houghton and Mcarthy as boring.

Aint you saying on another thread it doesnt matter what way a manager sets his team up its about the result. A world cup semi and Euro final would suggest results havent been bad