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How can they? Tony hasn't decided what formation and tactics will be used till be spins the wheel 5 minutes before the teams are announced

He already has in the champions League last year played the full game and was recently given a 4 year contract Agree he has been dogshit for us and looks way out of his depth but he is rated at Liverpool

In fairness Bennett turning down a new deal wasn't down to money.He wanted to play regularly and it wasn't going to happen here. Bell wasn't offered a new deal by the club.

They decided on Dolan instead.

Fair enough but it isn't anyway near Championship level. I'm not saying Burns won't make it btw like I said he looks a decent prospect I just don't think he can be compared to Brereton yet. As another poster pointed out Brereton was playing for England underage that alongside the fact he had made 50 championship appearances by 19 would suggest he was more highly though of as a young player than Burns is currently

Fair enough but at kids level is my point though.Like I agree he looks a good prospect but until he gets an opportunity we won't know.Well you would presume whoever has the better career will be the better player.

When Brererton was Sam Burns age he had 50 appearances in the Championship already under his belt. From what I have seen Burns does look a prospect but Brererton has 10 goals and an assist already to his name this season and Burns has never played a game at senior level, how can the two be compared

Ayala was poor the last match.The team in general were poor and didn't help Carter having Magloire that side of him.Everytime a young player has a poor game it doesn't mean they have to be dropped the following game.Van Hecke has missed pre season and only recently started training.Fingers crossed Lenihen is fit but feel Carter would be more deserving of a start with a proper right back playing

The summer we signed Ben we agreed a fee for Celina at City only for him to go to Swansea as they offered a far better wage than us. We also tried to sign Luke Freeman from QPR only for him to join another club. I don't know this to be fact but iv read in a few places that Brererton is on as little as 4k a week excluding bonuses, an experienced player costing 7 million would be want 5 or 6 times that at a minimum. How much did Forest pay for Grabban?He will be on 30 a week away

If his goals keep us away from trouble and we sell for a decent profit then his signing will have been a successful one. We have no idea that Venkys won't allow spending next summer they did agree to pay 7 million for Brererton and 5 for Gallagher in the first place.

Read the post I was responding too. It was in response to someone saying that people can look at Brererton and say he wasn't a success because he didn't get us promoted. I mentioned Armstrong and Rhodes because they didn't get us promoted from this division either.I wasn't saying in my opinion they weren't a success We will make money on Brererton too.

Shearer didn't get us promoted. I was obviously referring to the Venky reign and since we got relegated

He did win that award in his breakout season.He did start the season out of their 18 as they had splashed out on foreigners and Grabban,players they thought could get them promoted and Brerertons sale helped balance their books.The previous season he made 36 appearances for them,he must have been showing something

Will a manager of Contes stature want to join a club who will have no champions League football for at the very least 18 month. Did Lampard do that bad a job at Chelsea?I'd put Gerrard ahead of him but Howe?Not for me.

In that case no transfer has worked out Jordan Rhodes didn't work out and neither did Armstrong as we never got promoted

Brererton wasn't atrocious last season he was decent and has improved again this year. First two seasons poor but he was good last season

If he is our main goalscorer and his goals keep us away from trouble this year then his signing will have been worth more than just a few million profit. 100% in agreement it was too much money for a single young player for a club in our position, however spending the transfer fee across the board on 3 or 4 players means wages and 2 or 3 year contracts for for 3 or 4 players rather than one Brererton isn't on big money, he didnt come with a wage that a more experienced player would want or what 3 or 4 players would have cost us

I would disagree that he was a "class" striker his career before and after here suggests otherwise.( He was class for us agreed) but iv got my doubts he would have been performing at a similar level if we denied him a move to the Premier League A player is worth what someone is willing to pay and for Gestede it was 6 Millon.He had wanted out a while before he was eventually sold.We didn't sell him the minute he told the club he wanted out. If we were to look into it I'd wager players who have been denied moves when they made it clear they wanted out didn't play at the same standard as they had previous.(plus most players who get their moves when they tell clubs they want out) Many many pundit and professional in the game agree that it isn't helpful having an unhappy player in the dressing room ,only have to look at the talk when Kane wanted out in the summer.

He was already sulking that we were taking our time selling him.We undersold Raya and Cairney agreed but imo we got a fair price for Gestede.Prior to coming here he had done nothing, we paid 200k ,got decent service from him and sold for a decent price imo. Keeping him was never going to work out.

Brereton had hardly any senior goals before this season. Butterworth has looked dangerous, and looks a player that would provide a threat.

Agree he shouldn't be false 9. Butterworth has looked dangerous and has gotten shots off when called upon this season.Khedra has also looked dangerous. We still have players capable of chipping in with goals even with Brererton and Gallagher out

The same things were said when Dack got injured and then when Armstrong was sold. It only takes 1 goal to win a game. Maybe whoever replaces Brererton , Butterworth or Khedra they may provide a goal threat

Agree with Chaddy, Buckley was our best player in the last game.He should not be dropped. And as for where are the goals coming from..you said the same when Dack got injured and the same when Armstrong was sold.Players step up

Mate let's not pretend our fans are different to many others, like other clubs we have idiots who do stupid things.The Dwight Yorke incident being a prime example. If my posts have come across that I'm saying it's a large portion of the crowd who were on his back then apologies but when getting beat on a cold Tuesday evening and Brerertons number comes up the groans from the minority and the utter rubbish being spouted could be heard. Maybe I'm a sensitive soul or maybe I'm intelligent enough to separate the footballer from the man or should I say kid as he was only 19.The move came out of the blue for him ,leaving his mates in forest not long after being hailed as the next big thing at the club.His confidence was clearly shattered ,he was being mismanaged.He had played for Forest in the division, Warburton started him every week who was wanted by some on here to be our manager I am not arguing that he was poor but the manager did not help matters and SOME fans were on his back from day one due to the fee and that amount of money being spent on him On the Birmingham incident I don't know either way just find it odd that someone would say they saw it happen

Most deals do have sell on clauses these days to be fair but like you say hopefully not as high as 40%