I said we won't get relegated and I'm not moving the goalposts at all,I haven't given up on anything.Simply responded to a few who have said Relegation is on the cards. We had posters saying we would get relegated last season and the season before.There are worse sides than us in the division. Agreed that midtable isn't good enough.

We will not go down I'd put my house on it

Pre match on sky sports they showed a stat most chances created in the championship with minutes played, Elliot was top. You clearly have something against him, with your "he has a terrible attitude" when he signed. The lad is a class above, will look even better when we get players back. You do realise he is 17, playing every minute for an out of form side, in the later parts of games he looks dead on his feet.Im sure they would love to give him a rest but the circumstances are dictating they can't

No I don't but the others are debatable but Elliot not being good enough come off it. Iv Said before I think Brereton a good player just not a natural goalscorer or worth the fee we paid. Think JRC has the quality to play in the championship but wouldn't have him as full back . Trybull played one match since January after being frozen out at Norwich, think it's unrealistic to expect him to be showing his best when he has clearly been rushed in due to injury etc . Despite the injury list Mowbray should be setting us up better and over his time here has proven himself to be very stubborn and won't give up on something despite evidence showing it doesn't work so wouldn't be against a change,still feel performance levels and results will improve drastically when we get a few players back.

Elliot not good enough..have a day off

Fair enough but at the same time we don't know what discussions were had.It might not have been about money. The manager could have said to Downing "I'd like you to resign with us and here is what we can offer but you won't be playing as big a role as last season" So it could have been about playing time or any other number of reasons, I find it unlikely that Downing thought he would have a multitude of lucrative contract offers. Think it's a sensible signing but will echo others comments that the timing of it is wrong if it was to be done it should have been weeks ago.

Doesn't every player look for the best deal they can get? Or should we assume it's always been Downing's dream to play for Rovers)

Its the featured game on sky

Yeah he said it was Lenihen that the 10 million bid was for the other day

Well if Brereton is playing as a striker then so is Gallagher when he comes on.They both ain't playing as strikers

So because he doesn't know where the 6 yard box is he doesn't add value to the team? I appreciate I come across as a Brereton fan boy and admittedly I lost my rag one of the days and sounded quite condescending in my posts to you and others which IL apologize for but This season Ben Brereton is worth a place in the side. He scored a handy goal against Watford and 3 assists against Coventry and has had a hand in a few other goals.His movement and dragging players out of position has improved drastically.Good when he drives at the opposition with the ball at his feet and has won countless free kicks which we never do anything with. He was poor against Reading and wasn't great against Swansea. He obviously wasn't worth the 7 million and he doesn't have a strikers instinct but he still adds value and potentially could turn out to be a very decent player

I'm not being obtuse, I'm asking you a question.As in you have knowledge of them being on the verge of leaving, I'm saying what the media reported so am asking the question have you knowledge there was more to it.

You know this as fact that Lenihen and Dack were on the verge of leaving?As far as I remember,we turned down a substantial bid from West Brom for him January before last and Sheffield United had numerous bids turned down and walked away.

Yes against Watford

I saw the same thing it's just some guy making stuff up on Facebook going off the comments

Is Evans still in the side?

Well id see how things work without pushing the full backs so far forward and I'd play Nyambe against the better quality teams with the better quality player. But 4-2-3-1 isn't bad either , plenty of teams play attractive football with that formation

Chaddy I have enjoyed some of our football this season but it's evident when we have come up against the better sides our full backs playing so far up the pitch is leaving us exposed. If he wants to play them so far forward then Nyambe should be playing always against the better sides, playing such a way the full backs need to have the pace to recover and get back.I think Douglas is a good player but he doesn't have any pace ,and his best season In the championship came when playing wing back but Wolves had 3 centre halves capable of covering when Douglas was caught up the field.Jrc isn't quick either We have good attacking players and should have enough in the front 6 to create sufficient chances without the full backs having to be so far forward, I'm not saying the manager should completely drop this system but it certainly needs tweaking against the better teams.

When Gallagher was considering his next move once Southampton made him available for transfer ,I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall during the talks with Mowbray. Surely like every other player discussions must have been had about his role in the team , can't quite fathom why Gallagher chose us he did have other options. It's beyond stubborn that Mowbray keeps playing him wide, he just can't accept he is wrong

Bristol city having even worse luck than us with injuries Weimann out for the season, Mawson out for 6 month and Sessegnon out for a spell

For now.Fair play to him and Reading for their stary to the season.But João has always had hot n cold spells.At Wednesday he was unplayable in some games then goes missing that's why they sold him .If he could find consistency and play at his best level most the time he would be playing at a higher level,very talented player

What are we doing turning down a 10 million bid for Lenihen that is crazy. In my opinion he is better than his current form showing but even at his best worth 3 million max

Is the reading manager a rovers fan?

He should have started Nyambe and played Rankin-Costello in Evans position.Reading have a bit of pace in the side so he goes and leaves our quickest defender on the bench.Crazy The subs had me baffled, still think it's very early days but that was extremely bad.

19:40 I think the steam goes live on that