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Ffs Douglas will be first choice left back the man has had hardly any football and has history with injuries. And look as good a signing as I think Barry Douglas is I don't believe he has the tools in his locker to compete with a player such as Sarr, his attributes don't lend to it. Elliot was not lost last night he had spells where he looked good and a few spells out of the game, again should be judged after a few games but early signs encouraging in my opinion

It's not clutching how can you judge how we will do this season when we have played 6 games and haven't even put our best side out and Forest didn't have more players out than us.Elliot , Douglas and Trybull have been at the club a week and I'm willing to put good money down that those 3 will start more often than not this season.Dack to come back. Let's revisit this conversation when we have played 12-15 games see were we are in the table then

And we were well below full strength in that match.Half a team missing

He has just brought in 3 players that will improve the starting 11 add Kaminski and Ayala that is nearly half the team improved in one window

Brereton has played well in half our matches, the two victory's and last night, he was ok against Bournemouth and he was shit against Forest and Cardiff along with the rest of the team.How many free kicks does he win?Scored last night.He is coming along ok THIS season Douglas and Trybull yet to start, Rothwell to come back and then Dack.People are talking like the season is over already...not referring to you btw

As much as we say nothing in the championship this year, Watford, Bournemouth and Norwich kept the majority of their Premier league squads so on paper realistically 2 of those teams should be in the automatic spots. Watford last night Sarr 25 million rated and is a premier league player ,Pedro looks a player, can bring Copoue off the bench, Deeney and Grey in their squad. Bournemouth Josh King ,Brooks,Cook etc etc Automatic spots never realistic barring a miracle but the play offs are still attainable we had 2 poor performances this season v Forest and Cardiff.Half a team wasn't available against Forest. The people who are talking like we should be going to Watford and Bournemouth and winning are the same people who say every week how nearly every player we have is crap. If we perform as we did last night we will beat Coventry imo.

I remember a number of posters including myself bemoaning the fact Mowbray was too negative and wasn't letting the team attack teams last year and the season before. Look I don't know how we will fare this season but losses against Watford and Bournemouth ain't making me feel we will be close to relegation.We were very unlucky not to come away with at least a point at Bournemouth and altho we undoubtedly deserved to lose last night we created a load of chances and but for a mixture of poor finishing and good goalkeeping we would have had more than the 1 goal. We broke through Watford on a number of occasions so is there defence shit aswell?Sarr and Pedro are playing below their level, even if we had gone defensive or doubled up on Sarr still think he has the ability to break us down along with most teams in the championship. Think if we play a similar attacking game against poorer opposition that don't have premier league squads we will win more often than not this season

Yeah fair enough we struggled to create in our last two home games, and I appreciate what I say next will just look like I am making excuses about our start and for TM(not his biggest fan either) but the conditions in the Cardiff game were absolutely terrible and altho we didn't create many chances, we had a couple that should have been put away. In the Forest game we had a number of players unavailable and when I seen the team and bench pre match I thought we would struggle. It's too early to judge, I do believe the manager has recruited well this summer(for once) and a front 6 from Rothwell, Trybull,Holtby,Johnson,Dack, Armstrong,Elliot , Brereton and Dolan will be good enough to break teams down when they come and sit against us imo but it won't be an overnight thing, I expect us to improve as the season goes on.

2 of those defeats were away against 2 relegated sides with a number of multi million pound players in their squads. It is too early into the season to predict one way or another how we will fare this season.

Yeah but still think we are better than them . They don't possess the same quality as Watford or Bournemouth.

Im no big Mowbray fan either but he was the manager last Friday also and you seemed a little optimistic after they signed, so find it a little odd you practically writing off our chances for top 6 this year when those players have only been at the club for 6 days and 2 of them haven't started a match

Yeah and only teams who have scored more than the one goal against us this season have been 2 relegated teams with multi million pound players throughout their squads. You think if we went defensive last night we would have come away with something?I really don't. With respect the likes of Sarr and Pedro are playing way below their level and Sarr in particular will trouble every defence in this division. Promotion won't be won or lost not picking up points away to Bournemouth and Watford.And despite what you say we created more than enough chances in both those games to pick something up.Last night was a mixture of poor finishing but Foster also had an outstanding game. We deserved to lose but if we play like we did last night against Coventry and Reading we will pick up 6 points. Last Friday you said you were impressed with our business yet you won't even give a bit of time for them to be ready to start before you rule out our chances this season!

Be fair tho in the games we have needed to score 3 to get a draw we have been playing against clubs who have premier league players throughout their squads. Sarr will be a menace to most defences In this division.There is a reason he was linked with Manchester United and Liverpool throughout the summer and why Palace bid 25 million for him. Our promotion chances won't rest on failing to pick up points at Watford and Bournemouth (and we were incredibly unlucky in that match)We deserved to lose last night but against Bournemouth very unfortunate to not come away with at least a point

We are missing our best finisher in Dack.We scored 4 and 5 against Wycombe and Derby,2 Vs Bournemouth.We created nothing of note vs Forest and a couple of decent chances against Cardiff. Last night some of our finishing was bad but their Goalkeeper also had an unreal game, possibly the best goalkeeper in the championship. Just my opinion but if we created the same amount of chances on Saturday we would score more than once.

Still if we had those chances again last night would expect us to score more than the one. Armstrong can be a bit hit n miss in front of goal but still expect him to score into double figures and Bradley Dack is the most clinical finisher at the club,if he was playing last night we score more than one goal. There was some bad misses last night no doubt but their Goalkeeper was also in inspired form

Douglas and Trybull know how to win and know how to get out of this division.Even Elliot coming from Liverpool joins with a winning mentality. Those 3 players will be key for us this season along with Dack who is also a winner. From your posts you seem to understand the game, so you think those players mentioned won't make a difference? Trybull has had 7 games since new year and Douglas 1 match this season surely they deserve a little time to bed in before we all decide we are destined for midtable mediocrity once again? Yes it's a results business but if we create half the chances we did last night against Coventry and Reading then we will be 6 points better off come 10pm Tuesday night.

On another day we don't miss as many chances.We created an awful lot of chances. We also won't come across a 50 million forward line many times either. Yes the result is what matters and the last few games the results have not been good enough. But it is absolutely ridiculous to be saying things like "out of the play off race already" ,"we will be closer to relegation than the top 6" etc so early in the season. We signed 4 players 6 days ago 3 of those players will be first team regulars. Against Forest we had multiple players unavailable. In spells we did look good last night.

How was it absolutely awful? Poor result and that is what matters and defensively we were bad but we won't be the only team to fail to stop Sarr and Pedro. Some of our build up play was excellent and we created numerous chances. We were not absolutely awful,don't know what game you where watching

Douglas has an injury hit past couple of seasons last thing we want is him picking up an injury and we have another Cunningham situation. I'm as anxious as the next man to see him in the side in place of Bell but he has had one match this season in the caraboa cup so can understand the manager holding back on giving him a start, he will be in the side soon enough

Is that a fact that Brereton is the highest paid player as the club?Find that hard to believe Not that it's any better but Gallagher joined from a premier league club and was on a lucrative contract.Brererton wouldn't have been on such a deal at Forest . And Brereton will play every week? Nonsense statement Mowbray has left him on the bench more often than not since he arrived at the club?Up until this season he hardly made any starts

Elliot and Holtby in for Buckley and Dolan. Trybull and Douglas on the bench. Sam Gallagher injured

Dack had a set back don't think he has even started contact training yet and if he has now started it will have only been the past week. Will have a couple of under 23 or behind closed doors games before he is even considered

Mowbray said another month before Dack considered

Rothwell isn't available

Yes and he has had some time with his family now it's time to come back .He really shouldn't be missing the game on Wednesday