Agreed. The problem with foul in the build up is that six or seven passes could have taken place afterwards. Who decides where the line is because it can’t be a discretionary one, we all need to know what the rules are.

And it will be made worse by slow motion and analysis to death. They have just given a very very harsh penalty against a player in the Scottish women’s team. Players will always raise their arms for movement and balance and will always put a hand on another player. If a player exaggerates a fall on feeling a hand and goes down, the only consideration from a VAR perspective will be “was there contact?”. There is a danger of it making the game unwatchable. Especially if you have a fussy referee anyway. Today’s England match was a bore for the first 70 minutes.

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Right team won that one. Southgate got it spot on by giving new players a go at taking a penalty in a competitive game. Some pressure but not a huge prize at stake. There’s something very methodical about his approach and you get the impression that he is learning and teaching all the time. A decent end to the football season.

You’d have had to disallow Alli’s header just now had it gone in because his arms were across the defender as he jumped.

Watch again. The player falls in a heap vertically when he should have been pulled forward. Any contact will now be seized upon.

Thinking about it, what used to be strikers diving to try to fool the referee will now be defenders learning to dive as soon as they feel contact in order to fool the slow motion replay. Football is a contact sport but on replay contact is looked for to disallow a goal.

The days of fans enjoying a last minute winner in raptures have now gone I’m afraid. #passionkiller

There will soon be 30 seconds after every goal for vigorous VAR checks to be carried out in the six or seven passes in the build up. Just enough time for three, maybe four, adverts to be shown while we wait. 51st state indeed.

And even if it ends up being given it will become ‘meh’. The only way VAR can survive is if players are 100% fair and squeaky clean but even then some players will work out when you can and can’t get away with one.

If that was a foul then England should have been awarded a penalty. Very very easy to manipulate matches.

VAR has just found a new low. There will be no more goals ever if they are going to take into account any infringement that the referee didn’t give in the build up.

This is possibly the longest England game I’ve ever watched. Still half an hour of normal time to go. ?

Good to see that you’ve spotted your mistake and are now backtracking. Fair play. I’ve always judged him in that way. His approach before he came to Rovers was why I didn’t want him in the first place. Funny though, people said exactly the same thing about Coyle.

It’s a shame you didn’t get a seat that faced the pitch before Mowbray rocked up. You’ve missed some great players. Getting promoted from League One really has turned Mowbray into some kind of footigod! Anywho... I’ll be once again be judging Mowbray on his recruitment and approach to games and not how much better Paul Mani thinks he is at getting players to work hard.

I’d want England to beat Scotland any day of the week, at amateur level, at tiddlywinks... between primary school children!

The words at the bottom should answer that question...

Most of them did that first full season!

I’d better say goodbye to my researched and considered response as it’ll likely become “collateral damage”. It’s a dangerous game when posts are wiped out as it puts people of writing them. If nothing else, despite being a controversial opinion, it has generated some debate during the annual lull that is the transfer window. I guess Mowbray has been waiting for the Champions League to finish, and then the Nations Cup and probably the Women’s World Cup. Wonder if we’ll get a signing before the claim your seat deadline? I don’t see Downing, let alone Whelan, getting folk queuing up!

Utter nonsense. Underlined by your last sentence. You really think Mowbray has his team working harder than Hughes did his? You are either painted into a corner with your original comment or you are too young to remember Sparky’s side. Most players in the current side wouldn’t get on Hughes’ bench from a work rate perspective. Four teams conceded fewer goals than Rovers last season. Three of them were relegated. We also had one of our worst ever winless runs. Highest work rate since 94/95 would get you a few nil-nils to steady the ship. (The fact that you picked that season for comparison speaks volumes). On a budget (by PL standards) Hughes kept us up in his first season (while Mowbray couldn’t). He then went on to finish 6th, 10th and 7th earning the tag “bully boys”. Wonder what Mowbray’s team nickname would be? “Honest Eddies”? Our hardworking ethos has come is largely because Mowbray keeps talking about honest pros with the right attitude yet we don’t see it on the pitch consistently. It’s grassroots talk. At Championship level his teams have regularly been outworked by poorer teams. That could never have been said about Hughes teams. Or Souness or Allardyce teams for that matter. It’s a complete no contest.

It was 2010 when Holloway came out with his barrel of boobs quip. If he’d done it in 2019 he’d have been sacked as a direct result.

These are the same people who are happy to be packed into an away end as it makes a great atmosphere. Yet don’t want to be packed into the BBE and would rather sit in 10% of the opposite stand. In my humble opinion, clubs like ours (not withstanding the noble yet relative minority of protester stay-aways) really need German-style safe standing with unreserved spots.

24/25 is a young kid as far as Mowbray is concerned. 27-32 must be coming of age. 33-35 therefore is experiencing. I don’t know why they don’t just come out and say, well the wage budget is slightly increased but transfer fees are out of the question having spent £10m last Summer. Brereton really needs to come good. We also need some flukey brilliant free signings in defence. Although I can well see the same back four as last season and the same problems game after game. The same excuses from Mowbray, and the same recriminations on here. Again we need to make sure we score 2-3 goals per game because we won’t be keeping many clean sheets.

It’s not quick enough. That’s just a nonsense.

You can’t have “stability” with £180m+ of debt. You just have absolutely dependency on a drug that is slowly killing you.