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With Mowbray in charge, its already forgot about

Yes I can see and agree that it could upset some but that detracts from their argument. You calling that out rather than arguing the facts that need debating only detracts from yours

I agree that there does appear to be a more negative spin on here at present especially compared to other social media. But I ask does having a go at 'public school' types offer a balance? Personally I think it detracts from the counter argument. I would love some of the positive club supporters to be on here to give a proper counter argument so we can have a more balanced debate which could unite the fanbase. It is only then can the fans be able to drive change at our beloved club.

I genuinely believe the only way we can get crowds returning is winning games. How is that attainable without a complete change from within the club? It reminds me of the 80s when Mackay took over. He saw that the club was dyeing and tried to change the mentality of the club. He saw that the club need a more positive media image but fundamentally the club needed to win games. He went out and sold the club locally, he signed Archibald and club went on a long unbeaten run. Crowds returned. Fast forward to today, the club only deals with a negative image in the media, our manager doesn't seemed concerned about losing games. People see this and they are not going to go. Darrenrover and his group deserve praise for the efforts, it does not matter if they are public school or not its irrelevent. Until the fans unite to change the club's present ethos then I fear it is doomed to failure.

I know but once you add the snow balling of Venkys.

Should do as it is the other knee. Be more concerned if it was the same one

Adds to Darren Lewis' theory that Ince got canned because we are racist

Surely that depends on a certain sports agency deciding which one of it's clients requires the Rovers gig

So why the one with Nyambe not? But I agree Lenihan had no need to put his arm out as there had already been contact with the knee. Two contacts gave the ref little option.

It may appear that Ive been negative but I fully support his efforts.

Totally agree, I think Mowbray will be here next season, with a much depleted squad with numbers made up of free transfers. History will be repeated with relegation a real threat. When Souness took over mid season he had time to assess his squad and made signings to suit what he wanted. I guess on the other foot it could end up like when we installed Lambert mid season with the new man realising he has inherited a no win situation and walk before the end of this season.

Totally agree with you but the question is where the start comes from. The issue is that it appears the owners do not have the vision to grow the club or brand. If they did they would realise they need a catalyst for re-invigoration. Little things like sprucing Ewood up making it look like people care is a start. Im not touching on the footballing side of things.

Yet I live 5 mins from Ewood on a street with 10 houses. My daughter and I are the only season ticket holders at Ewood but there are two Old Trafford season ticket holders. I hope we can grow into the local towns I really do but I think the damage from the last ten years maybe is too irreversible. Venky's have a lot to answer for.

Now that the season is dead, if they are going to move in another managerial direction at the end of the season, surely it makes sense to make the break now and allow the recruitment process to begin. If we wait until the end of the season we will then spend most of the summer replacing the manager then they will need time to assess what they require then we'll end up with the likes of Wes Brown and Gordon Greer signing and look how successful that was.

You might fill it if the minibus started at Kendal called at Lancaster, Morecambe, Garstang at Preston on the way down.

I know but unless you are a bloody good con artist there has to be something there that people want to watch. Putting transport on for no one to use seems the least of the concerns. I live within minutes of walking to the ground and it would take all my time at present to go. Its a shame but its the position we are in. Maybe it would be better trying to get people to buy into away trips and making them into great days out that people wish to attend with the match as a side issue to create support because the stuff being served up as present wont draw the crowds. WE ARE the Rovers I agree

We've seen plenty of other players return from long term injuries, re injure themselves with similar types of injury in the past. Paul Warhurst and Kevin Gallacher are two that spring to mind. These thing happen and not always someone's fault. As lots of said it may of been because of fatigue but so can any injury. Any player playing three games in less than week could have suffered it. Mowbray's a plank should not be manager I agree but to beat him with this is IMO is wrong. Now if you were to ask me if Dack should have been still on the pitch because of his performance, I personally would have took him at half time.

The only worry is that with our fall in season tickets and the apathy that is around the club, is that buses maybe from outreaching towns might be a touch over the top. Car sharing might be more in order. With the Dingles in the premiership, we may have lost the floating Lancashire supporter. I think we may need something to pull in more local support as well but the club do not seem too bothered about that either.

Fair points but they are exactly the same problems that Mowbray inherited. He has tried different things but we are still making the same basic mistakes as from day 1. It does not matter what formation we play when your defence makes the same mistakes week in week out, season in, season out. There is no pace in midfield so transition is slow from either attack or defence. It does not matter if we have one, two, three or four there. How many times do we think that player x should be there or player y should have closed quicker. Everything is too slow. It does not matter who plays upfront because 9 times out of 10 they are too isolated because we cant get the basics right. There is no progress under Mowbray, nothing has changed. Its all smoke and daggers to hide it.

Sad to say but the option you did not mention will be the most likely outcome. Lose and Mowbray stays

Both Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes available on Netflix

As Ive said before when Gallagher plays down the middle he reminds me of when Kevin Davies played here. Davies goes to Bolton under a proper coach and he becomes a different player. We'll never know if Gallagher could become a better central player because Mowbray hides him out on the wing. I disagree that he can't hit a barn door. The few time he has played central he has scored.

No but neither can SG