Would they wreck us for spite do you think? I wouldn't discount anything with that lot. It will come to a crunch at some point though, you're right there, they can't kick the can down the road forever

Which we won't imo. The impetus is now with other clubs like Bristol City and Coventry for the final play-off positions. We'll finish out of it . 7 points out of the last 18.

They've been watching him! The sneaky bastards! I guess that's the last we'll hear of that then.

I'm often saying we will never get promoted with Venkys, I also think we'll never be promoted with Pears. Has never commanded his area, its chaos almost every time the opposition launch the ball up there. Obvious problem but, like the others, never addressed. Yet another 8th, 9th 10th-type petering-out finish probably---could be worse. But since the "ambition" at the start of the season was to "stay in this division" I suppose its job done for our owners and admin. By the way, Eustace's time-wasting and shit-housery is exactly what he did at Elland Rd end of last season and we raved about it! The fact is we've lost the manager we needed and got a replacement whose very likely not as good. The dumbing-down, continues---at every level.

Do you really think they will?

We know.

If a valued employee wants to leave, what do sensible admin staff do, assuming they want to keep him(or her)? They sit down with him, talk it through and see what could keep him. Did they do that or just tell him he had a contract? If its money---does he deserve a rise? Some would say he did---saved us from relegation on the last day. started the season everybody's favourite to do down but, instead, played some great football and in the top 6 for months. Moreover generated a great bond with the players and between them. So, yeah, I think he deserved an offer but did he get one or did they simply lick their lips at the £500,000 compensation? Was he promised more in the transfer market than he got? Was he as involved in transfer targets as he should have been? Or, in short was he shafted?

No doubt at all that other factors lpayed a role then? Big call that. You're obviously much closer to events than I am.

Every time I see Hurst play I think "how the hell was he so bad for us?" He seems to score almost every time I see him play!

With Sammy's £11m to appear in the next years financial statement and some of our best players to leave for nothing in the summer (bringing the wage bill down further) we could make only a relatively small loss next year but what then? Who could be sold to make up the £17m gap? And what division will we be in? It is impossible to go on like this for much longer.

Looking really grim eh? They'll continue to fund us but at what level? 1st Division would be my guess. And what's all this about "even in the event that the bank facility is not renewed"? Since they are reputedly billionaires why are they bothered abut what banks will do or not do? Bunch of charlatans.

I can remember Matt Woods being sent off for nothing. At Ewood, but can't think who the opposition were.

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Jones injuries were serial and with long-term consequences. He was a reckless defender who cost himself an even better career than he had. Never able to fulfil all his promise.

Quality and price tend to go together, though its still possible to get a bargain. However we have a scatter-gun approach to transfers, Sign a few for next to nothing in the hope that a couple will turn out OK. Then accept the accolades for "playing a blinder" and ignore the failures. Its not a recipe for inspiring confidence is it? By the way we're not top 6 anymore, did you notice? Finally can you please check your posts before you send them, I'm still trying to disentangle that penultimate last sentence and its very annoying.

Whatever people think of Dolan he shouldn't be going for next to nothing as he inevitably will. Its often highlighted how much money Venkys have put in but rarely how much they have thrown away.

Maybe its me but I can't see anything wrong with it. Its what you'd expect from any new coach. He has to say something by way of introduction so what else could he say?

It could have been worse but its hardly a step forward. We had a better manager than him.

Controversial view! On the football side of it Wharton played a big hand in Palace's first 3 goals. I love watching him but its with enormous regret.

Everything in the garden rosy then? Not a care.....

If he sees that we need a new keeper and that we shouldn't bugger about with the ball on the edge of our own goal-line that'll be a good start for me.

A long time!!

Good point. We keep going with them till their contract's up to save money. Or we come to an arrangement. We don't sack. This is not a normal club.

We are consistently hopeless in terms of decision-making on anything. I assume the problem is that anything costing money has to be referred to India. We are so slow, decisions take so long they become irrelevant eg the player has signed for someone else or ,in the case of the manager, the season is nearly over. Utterly depressing. No way can we thrive in this environment, the players must feel they are not supported by the owners and they are wasting their time.

And what will we be next week, or the week after? W e're hanging on and the posse gets bigger every time I look!