Local to where, Bradford or Barnsley ?????

Yes but according to some fruitloops the fans are the problem because 19k aren't buying season tickets !

That's because there is no debate. Chip barm Bacon barm Sausage barm etc etc......😉

Plus the ten thousand locked out.

Their ave gate that season was 10.691 if that helps, this was the biggest and the lowest was around 4,700. Must have been a very large influx of visiting fans just like most of these games home and away back in the day i assume.

Not if Rudy Gestede the apprentice replaces him.

The owners would invest in a promotion drive if it wasn't for...... FFP Indian Tax levy Tax Fraud Investigation Family Squabbles A Snowball They couldn't care less ..... which one are we up to now this season ?

'Sponsoring' almost sounds like somebody else owned it. He's a real jerk.

Can't lose 15 mill every year...except it seems the going rate for non parachute clubs in the champ you Partick Helmet !

I'm sure even that clown idn't think he'd sell another 3k STs at the time just on the back of offering a 10 grand prize draw ! It was nothing more than an oily token gesture to show the owners 'i'm doing all i can' please continue to pay me my bloated salary and expenses.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's their dealings with that lot and their associates that they are most worried about being exposed to the public. Showing how much they let themselves and the club be ripped off and possibly stuff that wasn't above board going on. Maybe its been worth 20 mill a year to keep that from being given daylight.

Leo turns bread and butter saves into goals for the opposition, he's a rare talent alright.

A poster on here is adamant that over in India there is a borrowing facility in the name of VLL and VH group just does as you say and annually services it. Then every 4/5 years it needs paying down a bit hence sales and no re-investment, this facility is allegedly secured against land over there as is most of the VH group borrowings.

It's the Barnsley model Waggot had in mind.

I'm left wondering how much urgency the owners are now attaching to protecting their investment and trying to get their lawyers to get it sorted before the proverbial hits the fan. As with everything in Venky world a snail moves faster and the Indian court takes the blame in the meantime. Are the authorities playing hardball or are Venkys playing slow ball ?

I was thinking he was out of or would be released from his contract and we'd take it over, Waggot is good at that. It's probably the easiest form of transfer deal to do for an old player who just wants to play if his present club wants him off the books. I think Luton had him as experienced Prem back up for TK but will probably look for a younger one now whilst back in the champ.

Leo = 800k plus c5k a week back in the coffers so a 12 month contract for Krull....... ?

Which will inevitably lead to relegation and they know that but aren't now prepared to try and avoid it, instead it'll be a complete restructure as an even lower cost running model. I really don't think the 'remain in the championship to get better value for players' line means anything because of what it costs to maintain versus what return comes in once in a blue moon. I'd say some of them down there would favour a scaled down academy and training ground all in one with the aim of producing lads good enough for a league 1 team and sell to championship clubs. The cost/wage savings would be big enough to tempt that for a set of owners who cannot or will not fund beyond 5 million or so per season anymore. We aren't getting rid of them unless they are forced.

Tells us nothing we don't already know. Parachute clubs have a massive advantage over everyone else but beyond that it's open and lower turnover clubs can and do finish above higher ones regularly. It rests on how they are run and what funds they have are used.

Yes they know the risks full well but continue down the road that very nearly lead there last season. So if nothing is done to try and prevent it then what conclusions are to drawn ? It's either 'can't' which means the problems are way deeper than anyone is admitting or it's 'won't' which leads us back to the theory it's being wilfully invited on. We had an official change of direction two years ago and that went from one extreme to the other but the common theme remained no real investment. Now we've seen quotes of 'external problems' and 'direction of the club' so what do we draw from that ? Because the recent new model is already scrapped and we know for sure the next change isn't to be start buying players for promotion. So it's survive as long as possible on fresh air then sink unless someone throws a lifebelt in.

They could've hit 10k and for the first time in years and that was a target Waggot was trying to get back to, although probably because it kicks in a sales bonus ! However it seemed achievable a week or two ago but like everything else it disappeared in a puff of a corporate cigar. Classic Waggot though rather than shift 10 thousand at a token discount rate he'll sell 8000 then hope to screw another thousand at top whack to recoup a fraction of discount.

It'll be one out one in as per so with Leo gone i'd expect an incoming soon although it won't be for 800k !

All they see is the millions pumped in to pay the bills and allow them to be in the positions they are and earn hundreds of thousands per annum off that money. The facts of what they reduced the club to are totally lost on the likes of Waggot who will have told them annually how he can reduce running costs in order to keep his own cushy position safe.

I came across a Cov forum last season that had a thread open on him and talking about what was going on here which says a lot. Can't remember the name of it.

End game or just another downscale ? The theory of some that they are nudging us towards relegation on purpose is getting harder to ignore.