If he gets 1.5 million to actually spend without selling I think that's a small step forwards again like last season comparing to the years before that. Not great obviously but a slow patient build this time is probably the best way. Just don't spend it on the likes of Samuel or Gladwin !!!

London has long been the dirty money washing capital of Europe so it's no wonder some of us ask serious questions as to why foreign owners are pitching up everywhere and so called pumping money 'in' to English clubs.

That would have been a goer when a certain mob were trying their best to tie up the parachute money.

Madame probably only got to know Rovers were promoted a couple of days ago when a minion alerted her to an English bloke called Tony at the gate buzzing the intercom saying he was a friend of a friend of Balaji's ?

If he could get 4/500k back for Samuel and put that down as a deposit to bring in Armstrong I reckon that would be decent business although we are losing height again we are gaining pace.

End of the day they are successful business people surrounded by their own finance experts and corporate law men etc. When these types get ripped off they usually move on pretty quickly and don't get ripped off again. The whole Rovers setup thing and Vll and agent partners etc is probably now all part of one giant accounting operation which serves a purpose to those involved, like the parent company, to a large extent . Yes there's been massive teething problems and collateral damage but there will also have been plenty of purposes served and benefits to be had you can be sure.

Reality TV and those who sail in it are in a sad sad world it's the least real thing there is.

That's how I came across the wages league table on twitter it was a Bury fan saying look our players aren't on 7 & 8k pwk. He was though struggling with the term 'average' wages and the fact some of them might be whilst others might be on 800 ?

A few decent performances towards the end of the season but I think he falls into the category of wouldn't really be missed if he left or put it another way wouldn't be to hard to replace like Lowe wasn't . My point is he isn't worth 15 grand per week in the Championship at a club whose budget might be limited because you just don't get a lot back from him on a regular basis.

I often heard him referred to as Jesus H Christ Lowe !!! To be fair, nickname FFS I think.

No doubt Evans wages will go up again now, I really wish someone would take that guy. With the exception of Ward who's gone thankfully the rest justify their wedge in my eyes.

We signed some league 1 players though so even doubling their wage would still have been modest maybe. Also a lot of our high earners had relegation clauses and we weren't fighting off advances from other clubs for money given the age of some of them where as i'd reckon Wigan will have had to persuade Grigg, Powell etc to stay with money.

A lot of squads in that league contain youth players, loans etc so I reckon 3 to 4 grand is top end for average clubs. Not confident it's right but worth bearing in mind a lot of clubs in league 1 have absolutely no means to pay big wages they just get by on their own income/overdraft etc so food for thought maybe.

Didn't Mowbray say the playing staff budget was down to about 8.5 last season ? Quite a big playing staff still for league one as well.

Well it is from twitter via a Bury fan so I doubt it's gospel i'm trying to find the source.

If the above is correct there's been a monumental reduction in players wages for last season.

We went down with Jason Lowe as captain, he fired off of his own accord it seems. We came straight back up without him anywhere near the club so let's just put it to bed we don't need him back we've moved on. If TM doesn't want to rattle the cages of a lot of his fans he'd be well advised to go nowhere near JLowe again that ship has sailed, never go back as they say with good reason.

Money has seemingly gone 'through' the club from the very top in India as well as all it's own income however generated. For whatever multiple reasons a lot of that money has been literally haemorrhaged funding it seems to be done in a certain way that suits the parent company and that's why and the only reason why it's been allowed to continue. Pouring 200 million down a black hole for no reason would bring most multi million pound companies and wealthy families to their knees. That hasn't happened here at all it's all part of a bigger picture although obviously it hasn't run smooth and plenty cash will have been just burned but the overall picture will be nowhere near as dramatic as it looks. Remember they ( & whoever else ) bought a football club that needed about 5 mill per season putting in just to wash it's face so they knew the score and were obviously prepared to plug those gaps they didn't rescue the club from admin or similar. They can only really be termed massively out of pocket if they bought the club intending for it to pay it's own way and cost them nowt or indeed to pull it to bits and make a quick profit before punting the remains on. They bought something that needed funding and mostly that's what they've done, because that's what suits. Quite where and why some of that money goes after it leaves India is the key, we'll never find out though because the clubs a business tool and that business is conducted under cloak and dagger in another country.

Just standing back and looking at it how much actually out of pocket could they be termed to be ? When they bought the club it cost c23 million and had a 16 million bank debt and 3 million loan from the Walker Trust on the books, also I think in the terms of sale there was to be 10 million invested immediately for the 'betterment' of the club. They themselves indicated investment of 5 mill per window would be forthcoming so 10 mill per season which is probably what the parent company was comfortably prepared to 'lose' in the books. So in the 8 years nearly they've been here that's 80 million they were prepared for plus the original purchase price etc which all comes in at around 129 million. Is that not near or roundabout the figure on the VLL share capital books ?

Yet again you leave out the chronic lack of funding and reinvestment out of 30 million in player sales which led us to relegation in the first place on the back of doing things on the cheap again.' They bought an established Premier league team with the promise of investment then set about making cuts and selling players virtually straight away and that is also the truth. Take your pro venky sly digs back to the LT boards or wherever. Never trust a dingle.

Caddis either has some issue that stops him training full pelt so he can't maintain peek fitness or he's just not that arsed about what he eats and drinks. Could still be a steady right back maybe if he got himself as fit as he used to be but no good having a back up RB who's blowing out his arse after ten mins whenever he comes on.

A lot of money went Portugal way for some strange reason and all this was under a family trusted friend of a global nature so you have to wonder who signed it al off and why. Did someone owe someone else a lot of money and had to find an indirect way of paying it or was another arm of the business being set up and funded over there by indirect means ? End of the day as long as the bills get paid and the money is clean a lot will say 'who cares' and that's fair enough but it grates that people think they've just poured a few hundred million into a hole and continue to do so for no good reason in the long term. Then again if a few million sticks to the sides again this summer for TM.... who cares ?

Brunei would be a handy place to pipe the partners %, you could even have a guy there overseeing it and maybe reinvesting in starting something like a large global soccer agency or something ? All hypothetical of course but stranger things happen and they do say everything for a reason, no way are these losses ALL just a 200 million hole in the Venky pocket no way on gods green earth are they. Now back to those westerns and why would the cowboys rob themselves ?

? Comes down to the old balancing act again but for me in the situation we are now a young hungry ambitious 23 year old who hasn't maybe even played regularly in the Championship or for a club that gets over 10k crowds etc would love to come and prove himself as an established player at a club of stature. His wages will go up but still be modest and with something like a 2 year contract with incentive based pay rises and option of extension it gives him something to aim for. Then say a 28 year old who's been around the block but is really just an average run of the mill championship player might look just the type to sign but once the ink is dry on his 3 year 10k+ per week deal he isn't going to bother too much at that stage of his career about how things pan out on the pitch, until his deal is running down of course. I think we've seen quite a bit similar to the latter but the most pleasing season we've had in terms of committed players and team spirit has been mostly based on the former. All down to the individual of course but at least this manager seems to be thinking along young and hungry lines.