I could come up with a few things that would make as much sense as the old 'oh they are stupid, misguided or plain stubborn' theories that's for sure although there's an element of all those in the equation no doubt. I don't want to put Biz off his dinner though so I won't bother I will say though 250 million isn't stupid no one in this universe is capable of that, everything for a reason, as they say.

I'm not having it they've spewed 250 million on their Rovers venture without having a large whack back somewhere along the line, no way. No wonder some people think it's a launderette.

Well last time we ended up with Sam Hart

Strong rumour he's a telegraph plant to keep debates raging, probably not but it's odd he's never copped a ban he's just a wum who actually ruins most debates before they get going. Telerag is probably over loaded with dingles these days though.

When it kicks off early Leeds bring about 3k or so but at 3pm they'll bring 5 or 6k so it's being altered just to accommodate that lot when simply restricting them to 3.5 thousand and leaving it at 3pm so you get as many home fans in as possible is the way to do it.

It was odd seeing as the clubs income has just got a guaranteed rise of about 5 million although most of that will be swallowed up straight away with pay rises, bonuses, new contracts etc but still they should be looking at more of a break even or thereabouts scenario. Typical red top rag guff they should be held accountable for this type of thing. Taking things from one form of media and quoting out of context to put a spin on it in another is journo's and amateur hacks common practice and it stinks

I'm sure if the police had their way they'd have them all kick off at twelve and yes it's probably an easier day for everyone - except the fans - just typical football really run by suits FOR suits and paid for by fans & media mostly. Didn't someone say the stadium manager is ex five 0 ? If he's comfy with his old colleagues and the club leave it to them to decide it's a cosy number all around. Hopefully Waggot as a proper CEO puts his foot down and says sorry but every penny counts we needs as many through the turnstiles as possible so unless the cameras are here or there is significant grounds I,e like a Burnley game then no we won't move the kick off voluntarily. Why does no else do it but we do ? It's wrong.

We'll know if that's the case if they start shunting them to dinner time kick offs again when there are no TV cameras in town. As I far as i'm aware no other clubs to this very often, Preston, Wigan & Bolton regularly play host to over 5k visiting fans without that charade.

Probably 250 million in hock to the VLL parent company including the original purchase etc and something that probably shows up on VH group books a 250 million pound oversees asset/investment. However it's done it can't be harming them and the only issue FFP should have with that is if massive debts can be weighed against the club somehow, after all that's why it came in in the first place isn't it ?

Can't argue with that they did after all have a massive audit by two different accounting firms plus there own bean counter and supposedly came up with a plan and new way of doing things. If that plan only allows a million or two into transfers on top of the costs being underwritten then so be it, if it doesn't then it's flawed. Don't see the sponsorship ever coming off though because the way they do things on the books is the way it suits the parent companies accounting process so to stray away from that you'd have to have a different outlet or family member digging directly into their own pockets, perish the thought

We've been through the sponsorship thing before though and they could have done that last time but didn't. Hopefully all this is nothing as we've been told everything for the past few years has been done to comply with FFP indeed they lifted the last embargo ( after some sales). It all has a familiar ring to it though, GB spent a couple of mill then the door slammed and we were told embargo, the team matured for a season or so them mass sales began. At first we were told players were sacrificed to come out of the embargo then as more sales followed it was to reduce debt then we were told of course it was because they ALL wanted to leave !!! Like I said I hope it's wide of the mark but it could all be part of the script again.

Because they probably have no idea where it's come from or if it is true that's the problem these days not being run from Blackburn or the UK they can't confirm or deny anything without checking their various levels of people who run it. Maybe TM has already had a phone call, no meeting till June / July in India and there won't be any money ! Rinse and repeat.

I'll leave it there then for the players he starts linking us with instead

200 in the BBE upper tier won't have much effect sadly and it goes against the old cost cutting remit.

If it's from Nixon it's pure filth i'd wager the mans an agents stooge we've known this all along, agents whose snouts are likely to be shoved out the trough at the moment. IF this did turn out to be true it's yet another monumental own goal....or rather convenient depending on how you view these owners

darrenr mentioned accounting function and I think these days that's just exactly what the club is to them, big profits on V H group again on their balance sheet for this year might see a good budget increase that allows a bit of proper team investment again. A flip side to it this time next year if they are struggling again or channelling cash into another project might see a player fire sale again, something he doesn't mention. Never know with this lot but yeah we are basically a handy accounting tool one way or another.

Pace on the wings an absolute must in my view especially if this summer turns out to be an 'as you were' mentality. Ideally you want to boost it with a quality signing in each key area or a Dack like marquee signing but I just can't see that happening. So just dig some speed out from somewhere to help what should be a limited but hardworking side.

Not going to lie I would have laughed heartily had Bolton dropped but fair play to them and it's another big fixture returning. I hope Steve Waggot and cardboard Mike come up with a plan to charge them 35 notes though can't be doing with loads of them knocking about thinking they are our big rivals.

One manager I can't remember which maybe TM in his early days did let the cat out the bag a bit by saying he carries some kind of recurring problem that needs careful management. Seemed to be managed around the Internationals as well and i'm sure Mowbray signed Whittingham just to cover for Evans then decided to try and shoehorn him in just for the sake of it. Evans earned his corn towards the end of the season there was shades of the player who wears green so well but it's reality check time for him he needs to put club before country or do one Rovers has been very good to him with little in return. Managers seem to rate him and I suppose he's one of the tidiest players in his position outside the top half of the championship, not great but not full of errors either. I'd prefer a midfield with a lot more bite than he provides though but I reckon any money will be directed elsewhere so I can see him staying abd being 1st on the team sheet, really shouldn't be throwing another big contract at him though he's been a passenger too often in his time at Ewood.

It doesn't matter were people sit it's what they do that makes the atmosphere and sometimes the 200 in the DE are the only ones doing it whilst ten times plus in the opposite end are quiet unless the team is getting them up for it.

They can damn well turn up with their ST holding mate/brother/wife/son etc then toddle off and sit in a cheaper part of the ground if they haven't got the means to turn up every week or pay top dollar then

Maybe that's because that is where I like to sit and I did say 'decent' seats. I don't mind paying a bit more for the better facilities but like I said there's a gap between the 14 ST holder and the 29 quid or whatever walk on fan sat next to him. There's plenty seats on offer in every stand and if I couldn't afford the JW i'd indeed go in a cheaper section if I really wanted to go. It just seems a bit daft when the whole idea is to get more in, you'll be as bad as drog next claiming the JW regulars are subsidizing everyone else Fair point about the 1875 I had indeed forgot about it and didn't take advantage of it last season. As for what people expect I generally think a hike was expected and it's fair enough on the back of some success but if I recall rightly the last time it was hiked about 50 pounds in one go was just before we signed Craig Bellamy and we had a host of top class stars yet we kicked off the season v Fulham then Everton with no more than 16 thousand home fans on !

You've conveniently missed out the other post where id already said they are still good value. Have you ever considered someone like me who can't attend enough to justify a Season ticket anymore so when i want to support the team i have to pay top dollar more often than not if i want a decent seat, i'm sure there's a hell of a lot like that. There's a fair old gap between 14 quid and say £29 pounds, plenty of room for some middle ground that neither upsets the ST holders nor devalues a season ticket but might help pull in a few more regularish walk ons wouldn't you say ?

They are still good value obviously although as pointed out they aren't really what you'd call cheap anymore. Thing is though next season is highly likely to be a right grind and they need as many as possible in there as often as possible but it's likey to be just the usual hardcore plus maybe a few extra. Over 25k home fans tomorrow and they need to be aiming to get half of those signed up but without incentive it's a big ask. Factor in it'll probably be dear match by match they are going to ailienate quite a few I'd wager. Mind you a big signing or two could boost it

Aye sorry i should have included i was assuming they are putting away fans upstairs.