Interesting stuff from the podcast i'll have to dig that up later. It is true though and the loose less perfect looking guys at heavyweight tend to have longer careers providing they are good fighters of course. Holmes, Foreman when he was in his 40's, Bowe would have done but his head and heart went. Fury much as I loathe him also falls into that category although for me he falls into the Bowe one as well sadly. Fair point on Bellew waiting but I just can't see it coming off unless Haye is playing games having got the fight in the bag. It was always going to be a massive ask to get back from an injury like that so quick for a fight of this magnitude.

Always been a fan but i'm sick of him now he only came back for the doh and took out a few club fighters then the money on offer for Bellew probably seemed like to good to turn down. The original version of Haye beats Bellew any day but that version is gone for good and I genuinely said to someone the other day Bellew would win again because Haye would break down again. Your right on the training and Bellew said it as well, Haye trains hard he always does he's a demon trainer but he trains like an athlete not a boxer and the constant niggles he gets are weightlifters injuries not boxing ones the way he conditions himself is all wrong. Can't believe TB is going to rearrange it and wait for him putting his own career on hold he'll break down again in the run up to the next one for sure. Haye will end up like Mike Tyson & Holyfield getting beaten by nobodies once the fight has gone past a few rounds because he's a busted flush just fighting to pay debts RETIRE !

Haye pulls out ..... again. If your injured your injured so no point taking the money turning up and serving up a shocker so no prob with him calling it off but he really should pack it in now his body has been telling him it's time for about 4 years. Desperate for cash though no doubt.

With the crock of crap pouring out of Rovers at every turn it's no wonder most were taken in by it, ok we might have thought a lot of it was pie in the sky but what actually followed came from the depths of hell. Biggest sting in British football bar none, this club and those corrupt crackpots have created more undeserving millionaires in the last 7 years than the national lottery yet they behave like it's just lost coins down the settee whilst the club and fans suffer. It would be unbelievable if it hadn't actually happened !

Was Bob the head of Venkys London or Kentaro ? He knew the plans ....

Yep there was a reason the Klitschkos weren't keen on fighting in the USA they new sooner or later they'd get stitched up. When belts leave their shores the Yanks don't like it and will do anything to get them back there or keep them. Manny got stiched v Tim Bradley, Khan in a fight as well once I think then you look at the GGG v Canello fight and that scoring. The way it was engineered as soon as Vitali gave up the WBC it was always going to find it's way straight to Wilder then when the IBF pinched the belt back Fury had won it ends up in the hands of Charles fliipin Martin. People including me call Hearn at times but he played an absolute blinder getting Martin straight over here by offering huge money because they knew a raw inexperienced AJ would smash him otherwise that would have ended up in Wilders hands pretty quickly. It was a masterstroke straight out of the Don King handbook when he lavished money on Bruno only months after he'd finally won it to go and be Mike Tyson's sacrifice again in his second coming after Frank won the belt off Dons man McCall. Maybe Fury isn't that daft after all at least he's got people believing he's still a champ years later when he could have lost it again quickly by actually fighting

Wilders talking nonsense they offered him 4 million a career highest purse or something to come here and fight Dillian Whyte a fight he should be all over and he didn't want to know. That would have raised his profile over here and in Europe and got the winner a guaranteed shot at Joshua should he still be unbeaten yet he's papping on oh AJ has to come to the USA to be recognised as the real champ. Total bull the UK is now widely recognised as the home of HW boxing the US has been out of that for about 15 years after the last great generation got old and the Klitschkos and some other Eastern Europeans took over. Wilder is running scared all the onus is on him he's untested against the divisions best, has been steered very skilfully around fights and is unknown and unappreciated largely in his home country despite his spectacular record because the majority of his opponents are club fighters. IMO he's good and has nothing to fear it's a 50/50 fight all day long but he simply has to come to Joshua not the other way around because AJ holds all the cards and most of the other coveted belts and England has Wembley and 90k fans waiting.

Get the wheels greased under the table in similar fashion. Pity tantric has retired he would have dug up a pot of cash thrown together in some dark corner of the world by some unofficial syndicate no doubt.

I think they'll flog the club as quick as they can and use those funds to try and stave off paying out the 31 million which would probably bankrupt them personally.

Yep they cut away anyone who might challenge them when they saw what was going on and now we just have a spineless puppet and a guy who should have resigned his guest directorship on principle years ago. They seem to have got away scot free though which is a bit odd.

Aye wouldn't at all be surprised if Oyston stitches them up somehow or retains a stake but it would seem they are desperate for cash now and won't want to dip into their personal wealth so I guess it's anything goes ...

Very pleased for them the way they've stuff at it and stuck to their guns they deserve it and it shows karma does always get served eventually, I hope the vile Oystons end up in a B&B in a stinking Blackpool back street somewhere. Sadly for us and handily for them they've been able to target those responsible on almost a daily basis but at the end of the day it did take one wealthy business man going after another to end up with this result.

Bleeding money out with the help of a 3rd party, that old chestnut. I know a few Bolton diehards and they were convinced Gartside was on the take long before this they absolutely detested the fella and it seems our old friends had fingers in the Bolton pie a long time ago. Just consider the stage managed exit of Coyle from Burnley to Bolton thoroughly greased in the press by yes you've guessed it the fat red top muck raker . So much so that he was receiving all manor of threats from the great unwashed and couldn't go near the Turd for a good while. But of course good old Owen has never heard of them.

lol you'd have gone off your rocker if it was Joyce with the UTD connection They plumped for Coyle because he was another of their agents yes men and he was cheaper. Cheston lied about it and Coyle himself lied in public, absolutely no need for that whatsoever unless your covering up.

Yet their continued connections remain long after so I wonder just what exactly that settlement was ? You keep throwing us a bone and we won't tell what we know about you or something along those lines.

If you don't sniff foul play in the Coyle appointment Vinjay I think you need the doc with that cold it must've been on you a long time. Even the clubs one and only home based director couldn't tell the truth on that one. As for the alleged Kentaro lawsuit why hasn't all the details of this come to light ? Did it every actually go through or was it just posturing or even a smokescreen to put the FA off the scent ? And if it did go ahead just what were they suing for exactly ? Why didn't similar steps get taken towards Anderson himself and SEM ? The Berg contract ended up in court and all the details are there, why did that contract get altered AFTER it was agreed then signed off by Shaw without permission of a head V ?

Yep Belokon got burnt after he'd spent his money funding a promotion drive only for them to then give it him back and cream all the profits themselves at the expense of the prosperity of the club. Think he realised pretty soon he'd got in bed with snakes but his money was tied up although he turned off his taps and has been on the fans side ever since. From the outside looking in it seems 3rd parties here have used Venky money to fund the continuing dismantling of the playing side of the club and diverting as much as possible into their own pockets. Personally I think it goes deeper than that certainly where Barry conman and his cronies are concerned.

Either a contract, unofficial shareholders or covering up it always comes back to one or all of those. In any line of business or even friendship you only listen to bad advice once, twice if your generous but 3 strikes and your out. If it's costing tens of millions per year you'd be suing your own mother never mind a friend like 'one of the family'.

Yes correct that's what I'm saying ,...... about the Oystons. You added the other bit yourself but bottom line is if they'd used agents it would have cost them but they'd have got away with a huge wad and been able to put it down to bad advice. Besides that doesn't it strike you that the Vs don't particularly care that huge amounts have gone into Anderson and co's pockets ? Either that or they couldn't/can't do anythjng sbout it

Read the whole post i'm clearly pointing to how 'they' have gone about their scam compared to Rovers.

All Oystons have done at Blackpool is freeze out the agents and didn't wheel and deal in big money big contract players and kept the profits themselves whereas at Rovers a myriad of people have taken the money generated by tv income and big contract/fee wheeler dealing. About time those here are brought to book, if Oystons followed a similar path to the happenings here they'd probably have got away with it by having 3rd parties bleed the money out but it would have cost them commission of course. Rovers has been stitched up good and proper by a set of thieves who clearly knew what they were doing and a bunch of idiots who didn't.

Sounds like Venkys, SEM/Kentaro, Cressendo, Anderson, Kean etc and Blackburn Rovers really. Hush hush

WBC are a farce they might as well just have given that belt straight to Wilder once Vitali retired.

I don't know if syphon is the right term for Oyston i think at one point they just wrote themselves a cheque for 11 million from the tv money or something so it was blatant thieving. Syphoning is a bit more complex, hard to prove, has a variety of ways it could be applied and there is no evidence to say it doesn't go on at other clubs. Sheer arrogance has undone Oyston, not for the first time.

Classic example last night of why Wilder has held on to that WBC belt, tough oppo gets pulled out on him yet again so he gets fed an unfit bum who he's already beaten coming in for a pay cheque. No doubting the guy has lead in his fists and is seriously quick but someone somewhere is going to hit him back one day. Contrast to Joshua who after what should be a difficult opponent pulls out he get's the IBF no 3 stepping in who's been training as back up since the original fight was announced not just coming off his sofa at 12 days notice as some would make believe. WBC is the top belt but rankings and officials are a farce it was the same in the 90's. They must've been gutted when Vitali had that strap well away from the USA but now it's back they'll not let it go easy. He won't come over here to defend it just like he swerved the Klitschko bros in Germany despite the belts being over there.