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tomphil

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  1. I always thought the best way to do it would be to either fund it personally or use a sponsor or another of their companies to fund it. Surely affordable to a multi millionaire or modest turnover company, it's not like funding the club itself. Then it would be another one or two million freed up from the clubs own income and their regular funding. Come to think of it if they'd bought Nevilles place with their own brass as they should have done not only might we not be in such a mess but that could have been sold or mortgaged and money used to tide the club over, without Indian authority wrath.
  2. The point of it is those who do it can afford it so writing off a bit of tax as well just helps along the way and you can bet there'll be a myriad of perks and loopholes. Owning clubs became fashionable a while ago way beyond only appealing to a fan with a few quid and even the chancers find it harder now as well due to have to prove money sin't borrowed. if there wasn't some attraction and benefit to it then nobody would touch it with a barge pole. I'm sure the Walker family and group of businesses could have operated similar to the Hemmings group once they'd inherited the club.
  3. The issue at Rovers is rebuilding a diminishing fanbase, as it was at Preston and if you have to take a slight hit then so be it. The wage bill and squad here keep getting cut to such an extent that it should be doable now. Lets be honest charging the 6th highest price for STs in this league whilst reducing the team to a development squad of kids is a bit out of order. It's akin to chocolate bars going up in price yet reducing in size and quality ingredients. Sooner or later it's taking the piss and customers turn their nose up.
  4. The way the Hemmings group is doing it at North End shows how a lot of UK based people or groups make a modicum of sense out of it. As long as they can comfortably write off a certain chunk per year obviously.
  5. We get told that on here but there has never been any real evidence of it although iv'e no doubt they own a fair chunk of land etc. They never pop up in the wealth lists over there even estimated ones and there are some very wealthy who do, everything to do with them seems a bit of a mystery beyond what is officially declared.
  6. I thought Academy expenditure was exempt ? The grants would also count as income if it wasn't exempt i assume.
  7. I doubt they own most of Pune we'll need receipts for that i'm afraid, it's like Issa bro own most of Blackburn or the Walkers did, just completely untrue.
  8. Look at the PNE accounts posted on here they had around 7.5k season ticket holders then they did the great discount and suddenly had 12.5k. That's the only way to do it but the loons here who are just wage earners prefer an opposite approach of charge more, get less, reduce staff and matchday expenses. I'm convinced this seasons whopping 20 quid early bird was through desperation to get a guaranteed cash injection from the hardcore because they already knew the financial situation. Otherwise it would have been a freeze at best then another rise with the aim of fleecing a 10k regular ST, walk up attendees. That will probably happen this summer whilst they use the financial situation to justify it.
  9. 50 mill is a realistic figure if we assume there's a few young players on the books that could recoup a lump of that then there is Ewood and the Academy site. A modest Championship income/turnover - for now at least - although the training ground is gone for good and would need a long lease negotiating. As long as we are in the Champ without massive external debt - for now at least - then it's always one good season away from the really big bucks. There also remains the option of integrating the Academy and training ground into one site and selling the other although it'll never be popular if it was done for the right reasons by the right ownership there might be less anger against it. Rovers is a great potential investment for the right people as long as they are realistic that there is potential but it isn't unlimited. And yes it would need guaranteed 10/15 mill per season committed funding outside the Prem but looking around that isn't unusual and isn't unrealistic to think nobody can provide that except these lot.
  10. Academy does get grants for part of its funding but Rovers do operate 3 sites as opposed to knobbers 2. Still seems mightily excessive it would be interesting to know what's buried in there.
  11. Yes '£20 million a season' picture frames a suitable fear factor narrative. There have been numerous times they put the bare minimum in leaving the club to flounder.
  12. For those who prefer a Vs sale over enforced Admin it's worth considering that should they decide they want or have to sell that process might be just as painful. Because like the trust did they'll surely stop putting anymore money in at all and will liquidate whatever assets they can, players or otherwise in order to pay short term bills. That might even happen now anyway but either way it's ramping up the downscale and will leave us in an awful position. There is no good going to come of it either way but the toss up may well be death by a thousand cuts or a sharp shock but both roads lead to the same place - the lower leagues and a totally asset less club.
  13. It's dumbfounding how these types always flag up our gates from the 80's like we were the only ones in football with small crowds. Absolute numbnuts they are, even Burnley don't mention the 80's for fear of their own embarrassment.
  14. This just sums up the idiocy of a handful on their forum. For the Wrexham Blackburn Rovers crowd obsessed looking in i think if you apply some common sense and look at other 2nd tier clubs in the 80's you'll find most had very modest/crap gates. Some will really surprise you but take a breath and remember the Jack Walker era here coincided with the dawn of the Premier league for which we were a founder member. That saw a boost in crowds and stadium redevelopment at many clubs all on the back of Englands success in Italia 90 and SKY Sports becoming a big thing all of which boosted national interest in the game. As for the Burnley comment, again absolute nonsense just look at their crowds pre Prem and look at them in the 80's. You'll not find a lot in history of them having bigger gates than Rovers unless they were in the top league and we weren't. Such a thick lazy comment to throw around. For the comparisons from Saturday you'll also find QPR were in a local game to Millwall hence a bigger crowd and Plymouth are at their highest point in a decade or more. Stoke etc have always had bigger crowds from being situated in a place twice the size it's not rocket science. My god so much for the romance of the cup i hope we pound this lot and the home fans that do turn up do what we've done a hundred times before and laugh the one off big day out day trippers out of the Cup and out of town. Rovers 4 Wrexham 2
  15. One over 25 with some championship experience.
  16. Cheapest loan in's on offer just filling squad places.
  17. We sold about 25 million quids worth of players towards the end of Bowyer/early Coyle era and then didn't spend a single fee for a few years. Then it was only 200k on FFS Derek.!
  18. The famous Rovers payrol yet again throwing up more questions than answers !
  19. I think i'll stick to my point if it's all the same and i'd look a the evidence if i were you. If they did have an academy they get almost half of it funded by grants like we do.
  20. Wasn't it 16 million and they've reduced it slightly ? Either way they tend to be just fine with less than us and i believe the Hemmings group loses at Preston stand at around 80 million ? Be interesting what Venkys loses are over the same timeline. Seems that the price on ticket of owning and running a mid sized championship club is now 15/20 million a season in losses so what Venkys do isn't in fact unique and other clubs manage to find ownership able to do similar. In the eyes of an element of Rovers fans that fact seems to be unacknowledged in favour of the complete doom scenario.
  21. Which is 5 million less than Rovers usually also they don't lose that every season do they.
  22. They also manage to sell a player now and then and cope quite fine in the Championship without spending big nor losing 20 mill per season off similar income to us. Did I mention they get bigger crowds as well due to offering great discount on season tickets to their long suffering fans ? But Blackburn Rovers can only ever survive going nowhere losing 20 mill plus per season by being under Venkys company umbrella !
  23. Then we'll be told there was money but JDT decided to keep his powder dry !
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