TimmyJimmy

Thanks chaps and to Frosty in particular (very handy site that). I was interested in what the league as a whole defines as a firing level of incompetence and how VI compares. These were the points when Championship managers were fired compared to us at the same time. Watford had 5 more points yet they still fired Pezzolano Swansea had 1 more Yet they still fired Sheehan Leicester have 11 more than us now and they fire Cifuentes Southampton had 1 less than us when they fired Still, so virtually level pegging Norwich had 7 less than us, so Manning deserved it! Seems we don't hold our manager to the same level scrutiny. Other boards look to have more of an idea as to how to manage a club - especially when you see they are all ahead of us now.

If anyone has access to an AI tool I'd be grateful if you could get this answered for me. Of the managers sacked this season how many of their clubs had more or less points than Rovers at that date (complicated because Wednesday had a points deduction). My gut says that we're hanging on to VI well after other clubs fire their managers. I have a bet with the wife! This might help: Danny Rohl (Sheffield Wednesday) Departed: 29th July, 2025 Ruben Selles (Sheffield United) Departed: 14th September, 2025 Paulo Pezzolano (Watford) Departed: 8th October, 2025 Will Still (Southampton) Departed: 2nd November, 2025 Liam Manning (Norwich City) Departed: 8th November, 2025 Alan Sheehan (Swansea City) Departed: 11th November, 2025 Marti Cifuentes (Leicester City) Departed: 25th January, 2025

Oh, now I get it. I'm watching a pro football team against a 'walking football' outfit. Somehow they mistakenly ended up on the same pitch on the same night. What a mistaka to maka. Someone's getting fired.

It's amazing, I'm finding myself so detached from this team that I'm quite enjoying the match. It's nice to be rooting for a team but in reality I just don't care anymore, they're definitely not my team and definitely don't represent me or my club. Out run, out competed, out talented and out managed. It's like watching a great horror movie, you don't want to watch but you have to and then you actually enjoy the shock. I left my heart in the Blackburn End a looong time ago.

Things are so depressing that my only refuge is gallows humour. I'm so depressed, this sprang to my mind but please cheer me up and contribute your wit in a few posts before I jump off a very tall building. There comes a point when you stop checking the league table because you already know that you're somewhere between “mathematically doomed” and “practically relegated.” Other clubs are out there signing strikers with two working legs and a pulse whilst we’re proudly unveiling "potential" from some unheard of Z league whose last goal came during the Bronze Age. VI assures us there’s no need to panic, which is exactly what people say when there is every need to panic. Our current squad couldn’t finish a sandwich, never mind a chance, and the only thing our midfield creates is anxiety. Somehow I still manage to tell people I'm a Rovers supporter but these days more in the same way one might love a three legged dog that keeps running into traffic. What you got?

I've nowt against the Jørgensen signing basically because I've no f'ing idea who or what he is. It would be good though if we could sign A striker and not someone who CAN play as a striker. Round pegs round holes kind of thing. The rumoured fee is big enough to counter my view that we are fishing in very shallow ponds looking for cheap potential who may or may not turn out to be a fit for the Championship. But I still believe that to be true. Whilst we're waiting to find out if we've unearthed a gem we gather perilously few points and frustrate us fans to distraction with weekly lame arsed performances.

We've all run out of fresh ways to say the same stuff mate, but as you're away from it all in another country I'll take your question as genuine and answer in as few words as possible. My opinion is that Venkys never purchased Rovers for footballing reasons, the true reason I'll leave you to speculate on. The club is like Neo in the first Matrix film, it is being kept alive but comatose so that others can feed off it. Some supporters believe we are really alive and in a real world, but we aren't. We will never be revived and no red pill is forthcoming. Warm words about the owners caring is simply that, warm words to give comfort and illusion so that the feeding can continue. There is not one single reason that anyone can give me to explain their continued ownership that would persuade me away from my view that nefarious practices are going on behind the scenes. As said I have zero understanding of what that is but interest in football is not it. It will not end under any circumstances in my opinion. I have some exposure with others on here of investigating a purchase of the club and categorically they are not for selling. Personally I made the decision some time ago to withdraw all financial support and I follow only from a distance on TV when screened, newspapers and of course on here. And that is my recommendation, withdraw life support, Liverpool Pathway watch the club die and pray for the Resurrection. Horrendous.

I think the tried and tested method is to ADD new blood and test it out, then, either move it on or trust it and incorporate it into the EXISTING team structure. I'm not sure that selling the whole team and starting from scratch by signing a bus load of unknowns from second tier foreign leagues is the best approach. The majority of our signings aren't at the required level and yet they now make up almost the whole team. We bought well at RWB. We did well previously with Toth, Cantwell and Tronstad it's true but every other one has failed. ADEQUATE is the very best that can be claimed for SOME of the purchases the majority just don't have it. The selling of the 'family silver' last year was utter hubris and was essentially betting the house on the flip of a coin. It hasn't worked. We are in deep do-do and the best we can hope for is survival. If the players weren't good enough this year they won't be the next. Project after project after project! When will they ever produce anything worth getting excited about. I repeat, in answer to your challenge, who will sign for us in January and who is at the required level and is uninjured and ready to go. Answer: nobody. We don't even have enough cash to bribe someone with high wages. Time to smell the coffee dude.

100%. Little extra needs saying except I'd add this, if VI was a party to the sale of the players in close season and had input into the purchase of the current dross then he fully deserves to be condemned with Gestede, the board and the owners. If he didn't then I'm not on his case because any manager being asked to compete with this line up is doomed to fail. Even Fergie couldn't pull it off. These players are absolutely nowhere near Championship standard. Chuck in a couple postponement replays, a whole team of 'first on the list' players injured and too many games in too short a time on a shit heavy hamstring tearing pitch, chuck in some 'unfortunate' refereeing displays and we are where I think we'd expect to be. There can be no argument whatsoever that we have been poisoned by the ownership and it's impossible to know why. They employ the board, fire good people and hire bad, they starve us of funds, they sell our good players, they run down contracts and force people out. If VI was party to any of the above then he deserves all the anger that's come his way. If he was a desperate unemployed manager who was grasping for any straw and thought 'how bad could it be' well now he knows. Cantwell is an excellent player surrounded by average (at best) players, he cannot shine, he has to be frustrated. If I were him I'd be off like a shot. Who the heck is going to sign for a club like this in January? 100% agree with you mate, our only hope is a sale and clear out. How likely is that? 0%. The club is done.

As bad as it gets. I so do not recognise this club. I was going to say my club but who am I kidding. Refused to attend home games a long time back but the way I feel right now I'm not watching any match again full stop. I'll be back when it's Blackburn Rovers again. Final answer.

Exciting season ahead. Who said that? mmm

We are not pressing at all. Wrexham players given time to do anything they want. Standing and watching. When we get possession they swarm around us like angry wasps. Powder puff players. How does this get any worse.

Can we just not buy back the ones who got sold?

I have no words. How does it get worse than this.

Yes we're toothless up front.