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Always had an issue of Johnson taking Grabbi's goal v West Ham slamming in a ball that was clearly going in when Grabbi was desperate for the confidence boosting goal. Minority view here but Grabbi's issues were more mental than anything else and he could have become the player we spent all that money for him.

Depends on what is taught and how. When I look at the level of ball control and movement in the Premier League today and compare with the old First Division in the days English Clubs were winning the European Cup year in year out, today's football is at completely higher level technically.

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Any official news on the injury?

The benefit of the QPR game is it has totally destroyed all hope for this season, painful as it was. Avoids wasting a lot of nervous and emotional energy on Rovers.

No idea what the formation will be but at the very least we need a fighting performance and a sense of urgency.

Saw the fag end of Bolton 0 Blackpool 0. No Joe Nuttall. Clubs which played Bolton kids early in the season got a 5 goal 3 point gift compared with what opponents face in Keith Hill's set up now.

I don't think it is fitness, it is getting selection and tactics horribly wrong 3 games out of 9. If we weren't fit we wouldn't have closed out previous victories the way we have been doing. Rothwell disappointed but I bet that dribble through most of QPR in the 85th minute was a "sod your instructions, this is what I can do given the chance to play the way I should be played" moment.

Mowbray has now delivered a bad defeat against weak opposition in 3 out of 9 League matches. Mowbray giving away 15 games across the whole of this season like that will not only kaibosh play-off places, it will relegate us again.

Agreed although he had given the keeper the eyes and he was going the wrong way before the penalty was struck. The foul contact was in the D but momentum of both players took them to ground well inside the area.

By the way no way was it a penalty for Dack's goal.

As a Rovers supporter I guess I am used to the periodic bad performance like Charlton or Luton at home. But far less frequently a game comes along so stratospherically bad that it literally leaves me numb. Yesterday was one of those once in five years or so events. The opposition so ordinary yet we got a thrashing with our two consolation goals the barest of fig leaves. In fact they almost mock us as the scoreline easily could, indeed should, have been 5-0 to QPR or perhaps more. The limitations of our defenders horribly exposed. Graham sadly past it. Midfield players we had high hopes of paper tigers. Mowbray powers of organisation and motivation as evident as a ... Sorry no metaphor possible- on yesterday's evidence they don't exist and his ability to react to things going wrong mid match is non-existent also. All fondly cherished hopes and beliefs get crushed by a performance that bad. As Warren Lucy said no player emerged with any pride. You look for redeeming features or hope for the future from that game and see none.

That was off the scale bad. Nothing can be said which is remotely positive. Huddersfield and Stoke both getting stonking good results leave us just 6 points above relegation, 4 if Huddersfield and Stoke now kick on and pull themselves out of the mire.

Pathetic= Tosin not chasing closing down. So much for no longer collapsing to a heavy defeat this season.

Now 3-1 with yet more insipid defending. No strength no determination not good enough

Powderpuff stuff at the back. 0-2

Not one out of your seat moment in the entire half.

Abysmal. Zero shots. Something horribly horribly wrong here.

Sad to say Bell at fault

Finally seen the highlights. The Lolly goal was ridiculously soft.

Rovers' performance was brilliant if you were the Luton manager. It was everything he probably hoped for. Slow, sideways and everything in front of his defenders yet refusing to try long distance strikes.

Head to head Rovers will give both a very tough match. We are just not remotely set up to entertain despite having crowd pleasing players.

My problem with Mowbray is he makes too many mistakes. All managers screw up but the good ones have enough about them to tweak corrections in game. Mowbrays tactics and game plan against Charlton were all wrong so blow me he only went and used them again against Luton

QPR now on a terrible run. We know Mowbray charity is coming to the rescue...

Meet someone with a massive grin on their face today? They are an Arsenal fan who had a bucket full of abuse from Spuds for Arsenal leaking 5 three times to Bayern