Two relegations in succession? Extremely rrosy

VLL has £149m paid and allotted. That is undoubtedly cash ploughed in. In addition, there is the lending by the State Bank of India which is totally secured by Rao-owned assets which I would forecast the likelihood of being repaid without recourse to the Raos as being all but zero. Even though the bank provide the cash, in effect the Raos are denied the use of that money or assets for any other purpose. So I am sticking with my quarter billion figure.

Glad to hear we are impoverished. Helps with the transfer negotiations...

Molly McKewVerified account @MollyMcKew Russia says it will use electronic warfare tech tested in Ukraine and Syria during the World Cup. That isn't just about "preventing drone attacks". No one should be going to Russia for the World Cup.

The seven years 2010-17 can neither be forgiven nor forgotten. Having reduced the club to where we are now, we finally have had 15 months of Venky's consistently good decisions and we should acknowledge that. Venky's have supported the club in a way in which financial and footballing oblivion have been decisively avoided and we should be enormously relieved by that. There is only a fairly weak moral obligation on them to try to right their past failings and return us to the Premier League. There is probably a greater obligation to Tony Mowbray to back him with what is necessary to give him a decent shot at getting us up to the Premier League quickly (within two seasons). I am persuaded by the point which was made that both sets of accountants will have pointed out that the only opportunity to get cash out of football is in promotion to the Premier League- either to do an Oyston and pocket the riches or realise cash through selling the club. Even a newly promoted Rovers to the PL would probably command a price approaching £100m. There is little evidence of Venky's buyer's regret so I don't get the feeling they have a burning desire to get their £250m back- they can't even if they want to! Which begs three questions: - do they want to sell? All the evidence from past behaviour is a resounding NO and therefore this is not a motivation of the owners - do they want to risk £30m (throwing out a number) on a Premier League attempt which even if successful will put them into a League which has returned to making net losses (this fact might be the killer)? - do they judge TM as capable of mounting a Premier promotion challenge from the Championship and trust him to make a decent honest attempt with their money? This also could be a killer if they think he is too unproven at the top end of the Championship. Also possible their judgement of how much £££ is required to make a serious promotion bid is awry and given the way they seem to trust/like certain people there might also be emotional attachments to players and the Mowbray team spirit which clouds their assessment of what is really needed to finish 1st to 6th in the Championship. Based on past Venky's behaviour, this could go any way and possibly even now throw up a bonkers answer only Jerome Anderson could come up with. Venky's put cash into Rovers for a few weeks after they took over, backed Shabby Singh, and as Revidge pointed out were not that stingy with Gary Bowyer either (although the State Bank/land security money engine was working then) so they have gambled in the past. They couldn't have got to a net £250m out of pocket position on Rovers if they hadn't had a reckless streak- imagine if they had done the obvious and put into the management team they inherited £250m net over 2010-2018.... Agreed this is a well-balanced thread with excellent points made. One thing is for sure, there is going to be an awful lot of Pune tea leave reading happening in and around Blackburn this summer.

Not £250m in debt. Venky's have spent £250m+ on Rovers since 2010 but £130m of that is shareholders' funds, not debt. Without going back to the accounts, overdraft plus debt is about £100m but as this is all owed to Indians without much security, it is not particularly dangerous debt compared with the type of debt most football clubs are burdened with.

Armstrong's pace and control seal it for me. None too shabby getting it on target or playing others in when in dangerous positions either. Sign him up if we can.

Burton v Bolton a bit tasty this afternoon!

Just looked at the table and it would take a collapse of extraordinary proportions for Stanley not to go up. They are three points clear of Luton with two games on the cow patch of a home in hand. Plus a long run of consecutive wins. So we can resume the derby after 128 years if we screw up from where we are...

I will be candid, move to Iceland

Or more probably, refs who cannot be relied upon to take a bung...

Just rubbish referees?

The progress of Sheff U and Millwall to play-off contention and survival of a totally crippled Notlob plus all the relegated trio of Wigan Rovers and Rotherham in strong contention to bounce back at first asking suggest we will be OK in Div 2 next season. Our current squad would run riot overwhelming any team managed by Coyle last season. Of the teams coming down, two will be useful but WBA look like next season's Sunderland notwithstanding Derby's Good Friday charity game. Currently looks like any two from Derby, Boro, Bristol City, Sheff U, Millwall and PNE for the play-offs with Derby in freefall (W0 D3 L2 from last 5) If Mowbray and the Raos have any sense, setting out our stall for immediate promotion back to the Premier is the very obvious thing to do. If....

That 3-0 Dutch win in Portugal could mean the England win in Amsterdam was more impressive than we thought it was. Malta full of Italian and England shirts this morning. Italy v England splits the island in two and is an excuse for a night of total excess for whichever half wins. On the issue of Kane, I might play him ahead of Dominic Samuel if he were a Rover. Or put it another way, he is the best English born striker since Shearer was in his pomp with us (not the barcode version). Really encouraged to see Luke Shaw might get a transfer to Barcelona. He is by far the best defender in England if he has fully recovered from that horrific injury. Mourinho will never give him what he needs at the Mancs but if he becomes a Barca regular he could transform English prospects.

Germany is phenomenally strong to only have Sane as sub. That lad has ripped a huge hole in the Premier League this season.

Lovely read and walk down memory lane of Saturday evening TV.

Feeling desperate for the lad. Terrible news. Hope he recovers 100% and comes back stronger than ever. I know we were gutted when we heard he had two years on his contract but so pleased for him that he has.

Never mind any official guidance about going to the World Cup, I am telling you no way on earth would I go there. The law is whatever the local Mr Big decides it is.

So was Graham Fenton

Seen him play for England live twice now but Dier is Dire

I know there have been three incarnations of Accy but can there possibly be a longer hiatus in a fixture than 1893-2021 when we play Stanley in the Premier League?

No way are England fans going to be safe in Russia. As for the England team, it is Kane and a bunch of nobodies.

Eventually found a thread! Remarkable win by Stanley at Luton this afternoon with the last kick of the match by all accounts. Now top of League 2 and 6 points clear of 4th. Will they hold their nerve and keep the automatic promotion spot this time around? Still only getting 1,000 crowds.

Cracking good signing.

Let's see what May says on Monday. If the choice is between England not going to the World Cup and stopping the City laundering billions stolen from Russia by Putin and his mates, I wonder who has the bigger clout and the more influence over Tory supporters?