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Brum make a profit So Steve Bruce has more spending money. Brum are holding out an olive branch to Savage by talking about him returning to the first team for the Charlton game a week from now. For all Brum saying Savage should not have been involved, the matter is now firmly with him at the moment. If he accepts Birmingham's peace advances he won't move, if he doesn't the chances are he will be on his way. Mark Hughes' comments yesterday gently put the onus on the player. By dropping him, Brum have taken the time deadline of being FA Cup-tied away from the equation. A neat summary from The Independent. They suggest that Sullivan's comments make it more difficult for a Savage/Brum reconciliation whilst Savage's parents are being door-stepped by the "popular" press in the Welsh hills to establish wheter they are ill or not. Charming.
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[Archived] Who Allowed The F.A. Cup To Die
philipl replied to den's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
hmm... that's six Cardiff first team regulars not available. Better not get complacent, Rovers. -
Great post bluenose. Do you think you will sell Savage to Villa now that Villa have dropped their interest in Amdy Fay? How do you feel about Sullivan wanting to sell up to get a club nearer to home? Perhaps Savage read that and thought he'd get away with his Wrexham argument? Is the antipathy towards Blackburn in reality all to do with Bowen now being hated by Birmingham? Bowen said a few home truths didn't he?
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[Archived] Who Allowed The F.A. Cup To Die
philipl replied to den's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Don't hold your breath. Benitez has signalled his intention to play a load of youngsters at Turf Moor tonight. Yes, he has selected his strongest water polo eleven. -
[Archived] Who Allowed The F.A. Cup To Die
philipl replied to den's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Great article by Gordon Strachan on Premiership Managers picking teams for the FA Cup. There is a common view (which I share) that the FA Cup will be treated much more seriously this year. Mourinho will put out strong Chelsea teams to win; even if Arsene fields the kids, they are so exciting they add glamour to the competition and for the Mancs, the FA Cup will soon be their only realistic chance of silverware this year. Boro, Liverpool and Spurs have to take it seriously because at least one of them are not qualifying for Europe through their league position whilst we all know about "massive" Newcastle and empty cabinets. The Third Round Draw is the most romantic in years. I really hope that the Prem clubs take their encounters with the lesser brethren seriously and that there are upsets everywhere except Ninian Park. -
[Archived] Man Utd Vs Tottenham
philipl replied to bellamy11's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Technology is being equated to video evidence which I agree is often unreliable through being inconclusive and differs depending on the location and direction of the camera. However, radio technology will give accurate reports on where the ball is, provided it is calibrated correctly- remember cyclops being switched off at Wimbledon when it was beeping for balls which were clearly inside the base line. Managers fiddling with the width of the pitch could find themselves in difficulty if a radio chip ball beeped according to the previous dimensions! Anyway, this is a fascinating article making an almost heretical case for technology by challenging the received wisdom on the corruptibility/impartiality of English referees. -
I have just found a report which said the Rovers managed to get £4m in cash up front. The other £1.5m was based on bonuses for Brum staying in the Prem, Dunn staying with Brum (and perhaps appearances) and Dunn winning another England cap (I think). Interesting to see more paralels and contrasts with the Dunn transfer. Dunn decided he couldn't work with Souness but was still on a long contract with Rovers. He didn't hide those facts and showed it by rejecting the offer of a better and extended contract. Savage has not rejected a Brum contract or criticised Brum or its management but has said things which suggest he much prefers to work with Mark Hughes now he has come into club management. John Williams took the position of Rovers being unwilling sellers. Brum have come out with a load of macho stuff about how no player who has wanted out of Brum has ever benefitted from the move blah, blah. The gulf in quality of people between Rovers management and Brum is enormous.
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If Brum want a face-saving £3m headline-grabbing deal, Rovers can easilly accomodate by agreeing to trade the the tail of the Dunn transfer deal which is increasingly unlikely to be paid because of Dunn's injuries. That way a "£3m" deal can rather straightforwardly be agreed- the £2.5m on offer now plus cancellation of £500k of Brum indebtedness from the Dunn transfer.
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I beleive I made that gag about three weeks ago!!! Somehow cant see it though! Never mind the song, you will have the terracing of Ninian Park to get the dance going. Happy we are in the position of now being able to decide who is surplus to requirements rather than be scratching around looking for replacements for already departed players. I'll repeat my hunch- neither Amo nor Gray will be at Ewood on 31 Jan. Anyway, the window's been open two days, we've signed two, have another coming on loan, well into a battle to prise a rival's best player away, lots of links to other players. Good to see Sparky taking a relaxed approach to life as the Rovers Manager.
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I think you are both looking at it from a completely incorrect perspective. Rovers are a small Premiership club. Over the last few seasons, the Rovers management have identified the players they have wanted and convinced the CEO and the Board of their value. Time and time again, John Williams' and the management have got their man despite intense competition from other Prem clubs for the likes of Dickov, Matteo, Ferguson, Emerton. Which players have we publicly bid for and not got in the end? It is not John Williams' job to select which players the club buys. It is his job to help make certain the acquisition targets arrive. Yes, JW is doing a brilliant job. As for alienating Brum, Dunn was tapped up long before he went to Brum. At least Savage can make his own judgement about which manager he would prefer to work for based on real actual experience. Whereas Dunn was a straight tapping up which went on whilst Steve Bruce was watching his son Alex at the Rovers' Academy.
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Don't forget the Richter 8.1 earthquake which happened in the Antarctic Ocean 500 miles south of McQuarrie Island two days before the Sumatran quake. The first one was in such deep water, it didn't create a Tsunami.
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Andy Todd cost £750K I think Viera cost more than £5m, Keane definitely more than £3m (and that was nearly ten years ago), not sure about Ljungberg.
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[Archived] Who Allowed The F.A. Cup To Die
philipl replied to den's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Just read there are fitness doubts about Dickov, Reid, Ferguson and Flitcroft as well as none of the longer term casualties being ready to return. Could be an interesting line-up and Cardiff fancying their chances. -
I tell you, we are winning every battle to get Savage. John Williams' new offer was well structured and his statement brilliantly balanced yesterday. Brum can carry on shouting their mouths off (thank you for your particularly inarticulate contribution Steve Bruce), be left to sweat, or quietly negotiated with behind the scenes. Interesting its gone a bit quieter today. Brum not as strident and the players are saying it is disruptive.
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..and does anybody have an opinion about Andy Todd? DM- Fergie is as at least as good as Carrick (£6m for a much less established player who was a big underperforming risk when signed); when Fergie as at his best he is not as influential but more effective than Murphy at his best who incidentally was in the reserves and going out of contract when signed by Charlton; Gravesen is, on this season's display, one of the four or five best midfielders in the world (which is why Real want to replace Beckham with him); I believe Jenas was £6m but is a much poorer all round midfielder than Fergie; Holland going out of contract when signed for £1m and as much an Irish one shot World Cup wonder as Garry Breen- if you watched Rovers v Charlton then you will know how much better Fergie is; Okocha great showman, runs midfield if the other side give him permission, good for one game in four, signed out of contract; Amdy Faye promising, not as cultured as Fergie; Boateng Boro paid a pretty big fee for him, playing well in a strong set up, doesn't have to boss the park like Rovers need Fergie to; others? who? (he cost less than Vierra, Ljungberg, Keane, and Chelsea's collection) but normally when part of a midfield in an eleven man side, Fergie has at least competed very effectively against the midfield superstars in the Prem- look how quiet Gravesen was against us.
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Must confess I am now getting concerned about the Savage transfer. The Brum directors by all accounts are hard uncompromising characters who would have no problem forcing Savage to rot out of the team until he asked for peace with them. Bruce must know that this is personal- Savage much prefers Hughes as a manager to himself. Having been colleagues at Man U this must hurt a lot. It is going to need an enormous amount of skill on the part of the Rovers team- board, JW and MH- to unpick the deadlock on this one.
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[Archived] Man Utd Vs Tottenham
philipl replied to bellamy11's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
If you read the rule change thread, you will see that the Coca Cola Cup Final will be experimenting with a microchipped football and sensors all round the goal frames. -
[Archived] Man Utd Vs Tottenham
philipl replied to bellamy11's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Didn't the Mancs benefit from another 93rd minute handball goal in the month they played us. I think on that occasion, Everton suffered. Correction, as Radagast has pointed out below- it was Bolton who suffered Anyway, so far as the Premiership is concerned, it pretty well became a one horse race tonight with Chelsea winning and the Mancs "drawing" and Arsenal also only getting one point. Have to say, the action wasn't even fast when Carroll clawed the ball back from out of his net- it was a yard not a foot over. That linesman bottled the decision pure and simple. As it is the darling of the media folks, Spuds, who have suffered this time, perhaps the deeply suspect refereeing which the Mancs get the benefit of will get some proper exposure this time. The headline in Skysports would have equivocated if Rovers had been on the wrong end of that decision. -
Percy, agree with you 100% on that post. I was in the let Todd rot for refusing the bench against Leeds camp but obviously things were horribly wrong at the end of the Souness time. Hughes was right to select from the pros available to him and all credit to both Todd and the new management team for how it is working out.
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[Archived] Who Allowed The F.A. Cup To Die
philipl replied to den's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Swap Savage for Flitcroft and you have the line-up I thought of including subs. -
Bit behind there SG194. They put that price on him before Christmas when they were also saying he wasn't for sale!
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I know I was watching it on tele but I thought the game was quite entertaining and that Rovers gave it a real go in the first half. There have been some awful Prem games this year but that wasn't one of them. Sparky did have the team playing very entertainingly after he arrived: the 2-2 v Liverpool and 3-3 v Brum for instance but in case anyone has noticed that with the excitement, the goals against have disappeared as well. I hope it is a phase in the rebuilding. The crowd was utterly bad on what is traditionally one of the top attendance days of the season- clearly there are big societal changes at work as attendances were pretty poor everywhere yesterday. Perhaps the New Year sales were to blame? However, Jan has a good point about the lack of wins and I guess the failure to grab the winner against Newcastle had quite an influence on the occasional supporters who came on Boxing Day.
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[Archived] Who Allowed The F.A. Cup To Die
philipl replied to den's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Cardiff are a very ordinary side struggling at the wrong end of the second division but so were we when King Kenny brought the mighty Liverpool to Ewood. My words before Bournemouth came to Ewood were horribly prophetic- With so many Prem clubs playing lower division opposition, there is bound to be at least one casualty and it could well be us. Ditto this tie. However, a draw gets us a replay this time rather the chance to demonstrate our ability to lose a penalty shoot out. 1-1 in a right scrap in which MGP and other recent signings put in appearances. So what's the first team now, boss? -
Savage dropped, Bruce bleating.
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Still showing the lapses though, they had a fair shout for a penalty eh? He definitely IS playing better than in the latter stages of Souness era though. and so did we when nissa was DRAGGED TO THE GROUND and dumped on his arse big time in the 2nd half ....it was the most blatent penalty we have NEVER been given. Watching the Sky coverage, the wrestling to the ground of Nissa was an absolutely blatant penalty but I watched the movement of the players in the box and neither Wiley nor the linesman would have had the clear view the camera in the JW gantry got. Lucas Neill did not get a touch on the ball at the other end so that should have been a penalty as well but again from Wiley's perspective, Neill would have been seen to get extremely close to the ball (he only missed it by a fraction) and the impact of the challenge caused the ball to deviate as though Neill had got a touch on it. I guess if Wiley had given one penalty, he would have given the other as well. The press has been very positive about the Rovers but very negative about the size of the Ewood crowd.