Not sure about this. Isn't Chapman under 23 so isn't counted in the 25 senior slots? Genuine question.

So many ways of reading that. It means Arma gets/makes nearly 1.5 big chances per game and takes close to two thirds of them. Could also mean opposition managers see him as sufficiently flawed to allow him to run in behind them as they prefer to commit resources further up field. Or Armstrong is so quick at this level there is no point countering him one on one. I would tell Armstrong to stick in the centre circle when Rovers are defending and train at hitting balls blind to land centrally 10 to 20 yards inside the opposition half...

On reflection, Kaminsky's save was stunning. Loved the fluidity and tenacity of Travis and Davenport- I'd give them a run together with the other midfielders contesting the third spot. Brilliant goal from Dack but again no indication of how Mowbray sees him fitting in, let alone making the most out of him. I thought Dolan was fantastic when he came on. It was needing 3 from Brum to stop/disrupt him. I'd really like Dolan to get more game time. The level of technical proficiency from Rovers when he and Dack were on the park soared.

Superb hold up play by Dolan and such a sweet strike by Dack. Really pleased for Travis and Davenport in midfield. Douglas put in a great shift at right back.

Gavin Ward gavin warding the game- total rubbish. Rovers looking rusty and out of confidence have persuaded a totally rubbish Brum they are a football team after all. Travis rusty, Johnson no centre half, Bell dozy, Brereton going backwards, Elliott not at the races, Gallagher showing moments, Armstrong couldn't have so many gilt opportunities without scoring. Made for Dack but I am afraid Mowbray won't be in their ears enough and Brum will come out charged up. Not won by any means when we should be well ahead.

No idea what we will be seeing this afternoon. I will watch because it is Rovers playing. Beyond that it feels like sitting in the dentist's chair with a numb mouth. I know it is probably going to be unpleasant but I am hoping it's not too bad.

Derby 0 Rovers 4 Brum 0 Derby 4 So BIG Club 8 Rovers 0 We love a bit of balance...

Here's wishing every one of you and your families a wonderful healthy happy and successful 2021. We've been through a lot together as Rovers fans and 2020 has had its own particular twists and challenges to say the least. But I am very upbeat about the coming year even though the first quarter promises to be the worst part of Covid. We even have a bit of a Rolls Royce of a Rovers squad albeit the tires at the back are bald, there's no spare and we have found out what we suspected all along, the long serving chauffeur doesn't know how to drive... Here's my 30,000th post- what the heck have I been doing with my time since this MB started all those years ago? What a ride it has been and what incredible avenues just being a Rovers supporter has taken me down. I can't imagine addiction to sex, drugs, booze and rock 'n roll could be any more distracting/time consuming/giver of coruscating lows or ecstatic highs than the accident of birth and upbringing within easy walking distance of Ewood.. COYB

Glad to see this thread. This is my gut feeling so not an in the know before anyone wants sources... 1) Venky's inherited well but for a pretty diverse set of siblings to say the least, they have turned a fortune into a very big fortune irrespective of a mix of deep religiosity, Bollywood, Akron and a football club. Most families with that set of characters would have blown the lot so there is some deep business acumen there. 2) I would imagine the large surround screen cinema in the Pune compound watching Mowbray with his finger in his ear trying to find something for what felt like at least a minute wouldn't have gone down well- even I felt repulsed watching it. Petty but silly things like that can really count. 3) Mrs D, husband and siblings have seen enough football and definitely are experienced enough in judging management to read body language. Everybody - players and touchline - was terrible all evening at Huddersfield. Mowbray looked dejected and defeated and the players displayed a mix of resignation and disgust. 4) I bet even Pune was wondering why Rothwell was so deep when he has twice run through teams on his own in recent games and what the chuff was Dack brought on to do? 5) So not a big chance of it happening but Tony might be persuadable he has had enough. Looking at his past record he has walked with dignity in the past. The unanimity of the 4 required to make big decisions might suddenly be discovered after watching such a shambles. Remember how we were all convinced Kean and Coyle would never depart? OK who next? 1) This is going to bring the message board down on me. If it comes available, the Manager's desk at Brockhall and Ewood is one of the best jobs in British football in 2021. - I'd love to see a real Manager work with the squad we have got and a decent roladex solves the defence; central defenders and left backs are out there - Seriously is there a squad anywhere in the Championship under performing as badly as our's is? Rovers are as close to a one way bet as an incoming manager could get - The facilities and set-up including a Cat A Academy and an under 23s at serious risk of winning PL2 - The mad crazy days of Venky's SEEM to be in the past. Management SEEM to have a tolerance zone to get on with it - within the limits of FFP, Venky's are making Rovers financially secure. 2) I would expect therefore a significant number of top quality to be finding Waggott's number and email address one way or another 3) We have two really excellent candidates right on our doorstep Damian Johnson (give him the balance of the season to see if he can hit top 6) and Gareth Ainsworth (profiles perfectly) if Pune wants to play it safe. In summary, the low risk high opportunity option would be change manager today.

We are 5 points behind Barnsley.

We have today and tomorrow if we want to bring in a Manager from Europe.

Maybe I am being optimistic but Mowbray had a really haunted look all second half.

The difference is when Hudderfield are in possession, they immediately know where their team mates are. Commentary back.

I wrote about the crisis of management before those subs. As clueless as the non-existent commentary.

This is a crisis of management. The players don't know what the system is, where they should be

Yes Its like Mowbray has only told half the team they are playing a different way tonight.

Rovers making too many bad decisions when we do have possession- even in deciding when to close players down and make runs. The whole side apart from Kaminsky look desperately short on confidence. Calling out for Dack.

No commentary tonight

Got a horrible feeling the Trybull/Johnson combination will be like black hole. The ball will never emerge from it in a forward direction.

Elliott has been worth his starting position but it is increasingly clear Mowbray doesn't know what to do with him. Playing him forward of Armstrong isn't working. The kid is 17 so doesn't yet have the physical strength to out muscle Championship defenders in tight areas.

People go to horror movies...

Made a right Horlicks of it. Apparently something happened behind the scenes with Pulis. Not the first time such rumours have circulated if I remember correctly. Wednesday would be totally screwed if the League One wages cap continues so can understand the owners' panic.

Pulis good enough to outwit Mowbray with a team of donkeys. Pulis not good enough for Sheffield Wednesday. They have sacked him.

If Chaddy isn't willing to give Mowbray a review I am. Here are our last several games going back to include Preston so its not all doom and gloom. Sheffield Wed 1-1 Mowbray sussed/ Their goal a defensive mistake/ Rothwell solo stunner/ Poor performance Stoke City 0-1 Mowbray sussed/ Their goal a defensive mistake/ Poor performance Rotherham 2-1 Mowbray sussed/ Their goal a defensive mistake/ Late heroics/ Dire performance Norwich 1-2 Mowbray sussed/ One of their goals a defensive mistake/ Mediocre performance Bristol City 0-1 Mowbray sussed/ Their goal a defensive mistake/ Dire performance Brentford 2-2 Mowbray got it right/ Both their goals defensive mistakes/ Rothwell solo stunner/ Late heroics Millwall 2-1 Mowbray sussed/ Their goal a defensive mistake/ Late heroics/ Mediocre performance Barnsley 2-1 Mowbray sussed/ Their goal a defensive mistake/ Late Heroics/ Poor Performance Preston 3-0 Murdered them A bit repetitive isn't it? The problem is footballers have short careers, fans' lives move on. We can't wait 20, 30 or 50 years to see the benefit. The Venky's are worth what Jack was with an extra zero on the end. We should be mid table Premier League. 11th in the Championship 7 points off the play-offs is Mowbray simply not delivering.

Half of National League and 70% of National South games off today.