I know everyone hated Mowbray talking about a long term 5 windows project to get us into the top 6. Well here we are after 5 windows at the end of his "long term". Quite honestly this season hasn't been bad so far irrespective of absences. We now enter a mini league of crocks - Rovers, Bristol City and Norwich City. I fancy us to do pretty well with our squad players against their's. And if we do, it will be Chris Who? ton on here. Ps where is the edit button for when I submit on my mobile mistake?

Had to scroll up to see what thread I was on. Hughton has never been my cup of tea. Am I correct that his only win with Forest was that scabby last minute deflected effort at Ewood?

He missed off subs 8 and 9.

Being realistic, he is not going to get much game time ahead of a fit Holtby, Johnson, Rothwell and Travis and will be duking it out with Buckley, Davenport and Evans (plus possibly JRC and whoever are the upfront selection casualties between Dack, Gallagher, Brereton, Elliott, Armstrong, Dolan and Chapman if we are playing a more progressive player in midfield) if we can ever get everybody fit.

https://www.pinkun.com/sport/norwich-city/norwich-city-injury-list-in-full-6569038 This is also a handy reference for next Saturday. Norwich are squealing but 13 is only the same number of injuries as we have faced in a couple of games so far this season. Undoubtedly Trybull would have been an ever present at Norwich in the last four games had he still been there. FFP has been extended for 12 months so with several players looking capable of generating bigger transfer fees than they were only three months ago, FFP can be gamed more freely than it could be last summer.

Armstrong makes a bonkers belated run back which distracts Buckley and leaves both Brentford players free for the second goal. The scorer then goes on to ride a half-arsed challenge by Rothwell but by then is inside the area so Rothwell presumably didn't fancy a red card.

If we are in automatic promotion contention in January, we would be mad not to make a signing or two to try to seal it. Norwich would be bonkers not to recall Trybull.

I am not to go researching it but I think all three have potential January recalls as reported at the time they arrived. Can anyone recall anything being said about loan fees? Tosin and Walton had them last season but I have no recollection this season.

Following Mowbray's substitutions and omissions on Saturday, I think appearances for Trybull, Armstrong and Rothwell are certain plus (if fit) Douglas and Holtby. Bristol City have injuries but unlike us have been moaning loudly about them so to a certain extent, quite a bit will depend on who is available for them. That said, I saw some of their win at Nottingham Forest when they were in the top two early in the season and nothing stood out about them. They have a similar record to us in losing to clubs in the top 6 and beating the rest until Birmingham did for them on Saturday. I saw more than half of Reading 3 Bristol City 1 and they were easily outclassed by Reading (as were we if we are honest) and Birmingham's win on Saturday was much more comfortable than the 0-1 scoreline suggests. Pretty well irrespective of which players we can put on the pitch, I will be disappointed if we don't win this one. Davenport must be getting close to having earned a start.

Two under 23 games this week (Spurs home, Liverpool away) then nothing until January. So looks like neither Dack nor Travis will get a lower level run out unless they suffer training set backs. Buckley's problem is he looks like an awkward 12 year old. If you get past his physical appearance , it is possible to see why fellow professionals at Rovers rate him. Davenport on the other hand now looks the real deal.

He made two tackles in rapid succession on the near touchline- won it, passed, receiving player lost it, won it back again. Plus at least one other tackle and some serious shepherding. I spotted the howling on here when he came on as right back so watched him closely. For their 2nd goal, Buckley, Armstrong and Rothwell were all beaten.

7 hours ago, philipl said on the wrong thread.... Got a feeling this is going to be a bigger point than many 3 points will be this season. Belief must be surging around Ewood after that display. So much got validated- the strength and depth of the squad and the sheer resilience of every player in it. All the subs were outstanding including the much maligned Bell and Buckley. Delighted for Davenport. Gallagher was outstanding throughout and how many positions did Elliott play throughout the game? Brentford's level dropped appreciably when their subs came on which suggests they are not going to have the resilience to come through this most demanding of seasons. Really sad for Scott Wharton. He rightly got the start but Ayala's performance was really solid in replacing him.

Thanks. Don't know how that happened. But I will support Buckley. He was run round for their second (so were others) bit otherwise made several ball winning interceptions and all round contribution was good. The fact he made me feel nervous seeing him at RB doesn't mean he was poor there.

Travis, Dack, Vale, Pike

Still exhausted from the last week of the last window. Government hasn't got anything ready for end of transition so will this window be the last under the old rules? In which case we might see a rush of signings of players from the EU. Now leagues 1 and 2 have their bail out, we might see some youngster loan outs although the salary caps could be a problem. All three loanees have recall clauses. Liverpool are through their injury crisis in midfield/ up front so unless they have seen enough in Elliott's Rovers performances to see him going into the first team squad, he should be staying at Rovers. Leeds might decide Douglas is needed given their leakages at the back in which case left back becomes a screaming priority unless Pike gets his chance and impresses. After their injury experiences, Trybull must surely be recalled by Norwich though. Travis would be a superior option if he is back fully fit and we should therefore have the options of Travis, Johnson, Holtby, Davenport, Buckley, Rothwell, and even Dack, JRC, Elliott and Chapman in midfield (I am assuming Evans is not recovered before February next) so rushing to get a replacement won't be highest priority but would this create a (whisper it) Whiteman hole?

I chalked two points dropped at Luton against Mowbray but wipe the slate clean with the Brentford performance. Just wow. The man management in getting that second half performance after all the hammer blows in the last 20 minutes of the first half was outstanding. The players went 4-4-1 like they play it every day but both the formation and the personnel in the slots were alien to their normal roles. He kept us in the game when Brentford could have run away with it then switched to offense in the 80th minute and caught them exhausted and depleted. Also really liked his subs strategy. He protected players already on yellows and had the confidence to protect Rothwell and Armstrong for their necessary exertions in the coming midweek. Seriously impressed.

My reaction too.

Got a feeling this is going to be a bigger point than many 3 points will be this season. Belief must be surging around Ewood after that display. So much got validated- the strength and depth of the squad and the sheer resilience of every player in it. All the subs were outstanding including the much maligned Bell and Buckley. Delighted for Davenport. Gallagher was outstanding throughout and how many positions did Elliott play throughout the game? Brentford's level dropped appreciably when their subs came on which suggests they are not going to have the resilience to come through this most demanding of seasons. Really sad for Scott Wharton. He rightly got the start but Ayala's performance was really solid in replacing him.

Where is Toney?

Hilarious how every game the commentary comes on just as they cut to adverts ...

The cardboard cut-outs are moving.

She does happen to have 99.98% of the issued share capital in her purse so yes we are based on her judgement. And thankfully I don't think she listens to Balaji on the subject of Rovers as much as she did...

Black Forest gateau in El Greco! The taste was in my mouth the moment I read El Greco...

That is the absolute key for me. Start well and we have a good game. Everyone is remembering struggles against Luton, Barnsley and Millwall. Sandwiched in between was Preston where we started well and kept going well for 90 minutes.

We are not the only club playing an awful lot of games in a short period of time. I'd rather not be starting the nine games of December with eleven players out but then I'd rather be us with the prospect of JRC, Brereton, Travis and Dack all available as we go into January.