Why would we sign a 3rd choice keeper?

He's commented it's happening but he's right, it would appear he's shrugging his shoulders as opposed to whinging about it which is incredibly worrying if a large enough section of the fanbase are equally indifferent.

So you admit we're being run into the ground but you're not particularly bothered about it. What an incredibly strange point of view.

Semi finals absolute minimum. In a way, given we didn't win it anyway, maybe it would have been better if we'd gone out against Slovakia as we deserved because that would have been a more accurate reflection of our performance during the tournament. By limping unconvincingly to the Final it seems to have fooled everyone into believing all is well - 2 successive Euro Finals yada yada. Question: Do you think We've progressed since losing the 2021(?) Euro Final to Italy? Whilst I didn't hear what he said in full, Harry Redknapp apparently nailed it by commenting we didn't play with any pace.

He said numerous times during the tournament that he and the team were having to work in a "strange environment" or words to that effect which was a clear reference to the stick they were (rightly) getting from the pundits and the fans back home for their performances.

I agree. On Southgate thank God he's gone, plainly should have gone after the first Euros final, it was obvious from that point on we'd never win anything with him in charge and We've wasted three years and two tournaments. After eight years we still don't really have an identity or style of play and went into the tournament experimenting with TAA in midfield. As for the next appointment the FA need to be really brave and think outside the box for once. Klopp, Guardiola, Poccetino etc would be ideal but there must be some other absolute top class foreign coaches out there with a slightly lower profilewho would jump at the chance.

Give over. We stunk the place out all tournament and according to Southgate it was the fans and pundits fault. The criticism from Shearer and Lineker was constructive and well deserved.

Adrian Bevington former head of Comms at the FA this morning summing up everything that's wrong with the organisation. Said that we need someone to front the organisation. No we don't. We need the best manage to win football matches rand trry and bring home a trophy NOT a politician. Nearly 50 years on from Brian Clough they still haven't learnt.

That mythical new striker is going to have to be a bloody good 'un given that arguably there's barely a goal in the other 3 combined.

Don't tease - he's getting prickly because we're getting nearer and nearer to the season start with no sign whatsoever of the players he has confidently predicted all summer would be coming in.

You two need to get a room! (roversfan99 and chaddy)

I know, I was jesting.

"They don't like it up 'em?"

Don't know why we bother looking at this thread, (I'm as guilty as the next person) reading about players we are allegedly "monitoring" or "interested in" or "in a race for" who we subsequently don't go on to sign. Don't expect anything to happen until after the Court hearing on August 20th but even if we get a favourable outcome then I expect the narrative will be that "we tried our best" but didn't have time to get our targets in before the window closed ten days later.

Would you rule out Poccetino on that basis then? He's the only other person I can think of I'd really want other than Klopp and Guardiola who probably wouldn't want it anyway.

I agree completely - we SHOULD all out for Klopp and offer him an open cheque. It's extremely rare anyone of that calibre becomes available and it's an opportunity we shouldn't ignore. The FA won't though, they'll play safe and go for Howe Potter or heaven forbid Carsley locking in another good few years of hurt.

Tongue in cheek......... but says it all.

Gav knows that quite well, he 's just being mischievous.

Again spot on.

100%. Spot on.

Taxi for Southgate. We've been dire all tournament and played two (first) halves against Serbia and Holland.

Dykes is rubbish - Gallagher Mark 2. That would be a very depressing thought, not that we'd be able to afford him I don't suppose.

Sam Matter face is the worst for me. Seems to think he's really amusing and everyone's best mate. Brian Moore was probably one of my favourites. Sometimes less is more. Or Moore.

With respect, I think you're splitting hairs. City can go out and buy the best players in the Country, Southgate can pick the best players in the Country. You have to judge him relative to the quality of the players available to him at the time.

It's not exactly the same, but it's roughly comparable. You can only be judged on the quality of players at your disposal. If you have the best or one of the best squad of players at your disposal as we have had over the last few years, you should be going deep into competitions and winning the odd one.