RevidgeBlue

Has it ever been confirmed beyond doubt that we have any sort of sell on clause? All I can remember seeing is £18m rising to a max of £24m etc.

Not by us. Assuming Leonard goes it'll be roughly a nil net spend won't it?

Lol. You know what I mean. If we can get into a position over the course of a season to chuck away a play off place Id be exceptionally surprised.

It is an interesting argument that. The "Old Guard" did indeed manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory several times. Not sure if the "New Guard" will even be able to get in a position to do that however.

I wish him well and all that but I couldn't sit through an Espanol game just to see how he's going on. Kudos to you guys for sticking it out.

Yep, Waggott/Mowbray/Venus were all probably very happy working together as well.

It's actually a tragedy. If we'd appointed an actual proper DOF to work alongside the excellent JDT instead of a bullshitting over promoted Academy Head, we'd probably have had enough to get us over the line. Im struggling to see when that chance will ever come around again now tbh.

Completely irrelevant. The three of them never even scored a goal here between them. That is some unwanted record which surely will never ever be surpassed ( if that's the right word)

Bullshit Broughton was far worse as a DOF than Teflon Tronstad is as a footballer tbf. Albeit Id imagine the latter will escape completely immune from any criticism should we go down this season. Someone mentioned the other night about whether Mowbray tried to falsely claim all the credit for Wharton's development on that interview with Big Sam. He'd be too late for that in any event - Broughton already did it.

Eh? Im not the one calling Derby "Derby Rovers"!

Just to be clear, what's your raison D'aitre for hating Eustace? Is it because he said he was unaware of any interest from Derby before the Wolves Cup Tie or something? Have you never ever told a white lie to protect someone's feelings? Would you prefer he'd said 'Yeah, well, Im just in charge for today but I'll be off to Derby next week if I can't make any headway with the owners?"

Szmodics was his one big success. Brittain/Hyam we paid decent money for and they've been good at times not so good at others. I appreciate most people like Tronstad. Let's see how he fares without Travis doing all the donkey work for him. We didn't do well when Travis was on loan at Ipswich. Too many disasters though- the two January transfer window debacles - Wahlstedt/Hirst/Telaloic/Ennis/O Riordan

So not even an attempt at an explanation forthcoming about how we ended up with various sets of minutes coming out of the last meeting or how the sanitised/edited/enhanced version was apparently agreed with the Club? Brush it under the carpet and hope it's forgotten? Back to tea and biscuits and the Club saying "We'll look into it" to everything?

It's far from abnormal for managers to sign former players they like and trust, maybe the numbers are a bit unusual. The connection to Nyambe and Brereton is entirely coincidental as they never played under Eustace. After that you've got four players who were only here for either one season or half a season and then Travis who is the only one I can understand people being annoyed at Derby for but again that's basically our fault for not putting a realistic deal in front of him at any point.

He probably sought assurances on contracts for himself and the key players and instead was told about the "plan" for this summer. Do you blame him for leaving under those circumstances?

So ........what? Why does it matter?

(I'm guessing you meant "whether" above) Of course it's relevant. We had first option to keep all seven and for one reason or another we chose not to. Where they end up after that is irrelevant and none of our business anyway but I really can't see what everyone's beef is when six out of the seven players you listed weren't even our players when Eustace signed them.

That's pretty fair. Unfortunately though, as Mark says, I dont know how we'll be able to afford to sack him if he continues to bomb. Edit: Even if we wanted to.

I agree. I still think we're short up front.

Carter like Buckley seems to have absolutely fallen off a cliff after being given a long term deal by Broughton. Whilst both seem to have backfired, it's about the only thing Id give Broughton any credit for, it seemed a good idea to tie both down at the time.

I really dont know how we've got to a position whereby from being absolutely over-run with midfielders we're looking slightly light in that area. We must have known for a long time that Travis and Buckley were leaving and what the medical position with Baradji was when we signed him. That's three down. Surely we must have had a contingency plan even if it's only a loan until Baradji gets fit?

Fear not. Im sure John Fleck will be available.

Then if we get to November/December and we're struggling it'll be - "it's OK, let's see who we sign in January" then if we bring a few in it'll be "They need a bit of time to gel" as well.

On Ismael - he gives me Jim Iley vibes. Always has. The guy absolutely no-one wanted before he was appointed, and performing accordingly.

There's no problem with people having completely differing views on a message board, thats what it's all about, but your problem appears to be you can't be civil to those who dont have the same point of view as you.