RevidgeBlue

Didn't watch it today, unless it's free on the red button I'm not wasting £10 until Mowbray goes. Saw the goals on Soccer Saturday. Cracking finish by Brereton and great set up play by Nyambe. The latter will be sadly missed when we lose him for next to nothing due to the negligence of Mowbray and Waggott.

Eh? Useful rule of thumb, Evans plays we lose. He'd done nothing to warrant being brought back in last Wednesday and you'd have been forgiven for forgetting he was on the pitch. Think I saw him touch the ball around the 53rd minute.

It's been admitted we would lose pitches if we go ahead. As for it only being a proposal, it's more than that they, they seem to have gone into a great deal of care and planning to ascertain that 170 new dwellings could be squeezed on one of the sites and get to the stage where they could submit a planning application. On the sly.

Coventry - ghastly chocolate brown strips - Howard Kendal beating them 1-0 at Ewood in FA Cup 4th round 1980 when we were League 1 and they were Premier League equivalents. Happy Days. As for tomorrow who cares? Securing Brockhall and seeing the back of the Coventry 3 is way more important. I actually think we might do the usual and sneak a win which will secure Mowbray's employment for a while longer.

I'll have a look again. Nothing wrong with (3) in principle but it's totally unrelated to (1) and (2). We only get the sale price of the land to the developers, you do understand that dont you. I haven't seen anything to suggest that we'll end up with anything other than a similar standard of facility than we have now only much less of them. And Waggott even seems to suggest the project will run at a loss. That's why you're getting stick, for defending a seemingly indefensible position. Nothing to do with being a new poster.

If you're going to be a WUM you might as well remember what you've posted. "I see a proposal that intends on retaining that status (Cat 1) whilst generating funds" Your words not mine. Nothing whatsoever to do with Ewood Park.

You must be hard of understanding. Top class indoor pitches that Mowbray CHOSE not to use during a brief spell of bad weather.

For that, you'd need top class training facilities of Category 1 standard with room for both the Academy and Senior Set up. Oh wait, we already have them!................

What? Apologies if I missed that (I'll re-read what he said) but how is that assisted by a loss making scheme down at Brockhall? At least I know you're trolling now and not a genuine poster.

You've obviously never been to Brockhall I take it? The current facilities are superb. Especially the indoor pitches. We're not talking Luton 1975 here, they're as smooth as silk to the touch. With the benefit of hindsight the previously incomprehensible decision to train on a pitch that was already knackered seems part of a cunning plain to paint the indoor training facilities as outdated or unusable. I thought we only did it to ensure the game got called off.

Hi Chaddy. Well, if such an ultimatum was made, they haven't acted on it so far have they? The poster claimed they haven't acted because they don't have an immediate replacement for Waggott. If results don't improve and they're still both here in the summer something would even more amiss than it already appears.

Can you not read what Waggott said today? He appeared to be claiming that the cost of building the new facility would be the same as or would more likely exceed the sale proceeds which the owners would have to make up. How does that "generate funds?"

That's it in a nutshell. Superp post which should be forwarded to the LT and Lancs Life.

Don't spoil the fantasy with facts. Those are the sort of points the local journos should be making instead of lapping it all up at face value.

It was so rare we heard from him I didn't know what he looked like for a long while. When I eventually saw a picture of him my gut reaction was "I wouldn't buy a car off that bloke". Totally unfair of course. But nothing he's done or said since has altered by opinion. Arthur Daley without any of the charm.

He hasn't been able to cite one genuine advantage the new facility would have over the ones we already have. And it's been admitted we'd lose a number of pitches. It's not improving the facilities it's downsizing them and making them worse.

We have been a bit unlucky with injuries but that's part of the game and nobody forced him to sign an unreliable injury prone 29/30 year old CB who had barely played in 2020 and a couple of 18 year old to play at CB when we have a 20 year old CB of our own we could have used. Other than that the challenges presented by Covid have been the same for every Club. And most Clubs don't have the financial cushion of multi billionaire owners bailing them out. Just covering his mate's back. A proper unbiased CEO would either have said nothing or admitted that results hadn't been good enough and left it at that. They certainly wouldn't be rolling out excuses for the manager.

Is that you Steve ? What are the advantages of the proposed scheme over what we currently have as outlined by you (sorry Waggott) today? What were you (sorry Waggott) doing job wise when your (sorry Waggott's) mate Tony recommended you (sorry Waggott) for the job?

Yup. Especially as he is claiming it's a non money earner, or even likely to cost the V's money. Also need to keep an eye on who would be developing the site.

If I were the owners and Waggott made that sort of ultimatum I also wouldn't be able to believe my luck either. "I say you sack one, you get one free!"

This sounds wholly believable to me, did anyone really expect anything any different once Mowbray was allowed to recommend and appoint his own boss, a guy he'd worked with before? It's a complete conflict of interest and obviously they're going to protect each other's backs ferociously, you wouldn't expect anything else. TBH after hearing Waggott attempt to explain the reasoning behind the Brockhall scheme, one with (according to him) no apparent advantages and only potential downside I'd far rather he went first before Mowbray. At least a new CEO would deal with Mowbray at arm's length, as it should be, and judge him on results. And someone will be benefitting from the Brockhall scheme, it hasn't been thought up for no reason.

About 11 or 12 years since I last went down but back then the facilities were magnificent, particularly the indoor training pitches. I doubt the buildings have deteriorated much since then. I suspect the "30 year old training ground" talk is a complete red herring designed to make them sound like dilapidated and completely outdated facilities from the 1950's.

What a load of BS. The only thing we've learnt from that is that he is driving the idea and is dragging everyone else fairly unenthusiastically behind him. He can't name one single benefit to it can he? Admits the existing sites are both Cat 1 status and appears to be claiming that the sale of the site would only break even compared to the costs of the new Training Centre or would more likely need topping up. I wonder if this is how he pitched it to the owners "I've had a great idea, we'll sell one of our training centres, knock down the other even though there's nothing wrong with either and build a new one which is no better and will entail losing a number of outdoor pitches. Oh, and you might have to stump up an additional few million as well." Does he actually think that everyone is THAT stupid? Even more proof (if any were needed) that this proposal needs fighting to the death. As he appears to be claiming that changing the Training grounds over for no apparent reason is a non profit scheme, extra scrutiny now needs to fall upon who would be developing the housing and what commissions would be flowing back to those on the ground at Ewood etc.

Can't tell if you're agreeing with me or yours is a "What did the Romans ever do for us" type reply. To counter that, 4 good signings in 4 seasons isn't that impressive and the key question is, "Are we significantly better off than when he arrived?" I'm not sure we are, you might say we could sell Dack and Armstrong and realise the proceeds but against that he's been handed £16m to spend on Dack, Armstrong, BB and SG. You'd hope anyone could turn a profit given that sort of funding. Also are the young players thriving because of or despite him? Don't think Lenihan is progressing and he certainly hasn't done Nyambe any favours. Raya, Chapman, Davenport, Buckley Magloire?

Let's not go overboard. He signed Dack, got us out of League 1 and signed Armstrong permanently. That's about it. Thereafter it's been extremely poor imo. Poor results and performances, poor transfer dealings, multiple contract extensions to the players that shouldn't have had them, even ones that had no prospect of playing, failing to tie the better players that did need extensions down etc etc.