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I'm afraid that's where we differ. Given the backing he's had I think he's done an appalling job overall.

Like I say I don't think either will happen unless we're in imminent danger of going down. Would that be my personal choice? No but there you are. By the end of the season Mowbray will most likely have burnt his way through roughly £100 m of Venky's money to not even finish in the play offs once. If people think that's an acceptable return, and seemingly some on here think it is, I despair.

As Mandy Rice Davies famously said "He would say that wouldn't he?"

Why, who else pre Mowbray and Waggott has walked for nothing? The only one I can think of was King and he was a bit of an odd case as he was absolute garbage until a few months before his contract was up.

Absolutely. Despite my hatred of Mowbray, I hope we get in the play offs, he takes us up, and proves me completely wrong. Do I think it will happen? Not a chance.

Absolute rubbish. Do you think Venky's fell out with Mulgrew and decided to pay him the thick end of £2m over 2 years to play for Fleetwood? Or decided to pay £5m for Sam Gallagher? Do you think Venky's chose to offer contract extensions to the likes of Evans Bennett and Graham? And temporary contract extensions to the likes of Smallwood and Hart. And a "we feel sorry for you" deal for Ben Gladwin? Do you think Venky's made a conscious decision to let the contracts of the likes of Nyambe, Rothwell, Lenihan, Kaminsky and Brereton run down potentially allowing them to walk away for nothing? Or do you think they trusted Mowbray and Waggott to manage the overall budget over the last few seasons properly and prioritise our better players accordingly? Do you believe the reason that no-one appears to be willing to re-sign is purely financial or at least partly to do with the fact that we currently have a lame duck management team that would never ever take us anywhere if allowed to remain in situ?

Well if you only go to the game for the day out and don't mind whether we win, lose or draw all power to your elbow. I'd like to think most supporters are far more selective than that. Maybe not.

Don't think he'll go this season unless we're in imminent danger of going down. SHOULD he be sacked tomorrow? Hell yeah.

Back in John Williams' day there were c80k people on the Club's database. Obviously not all of them will attend at any given time and some will have passed on but I believe the number is a lot higher again now.

Because there's no hope of progression until Waggott, Mowbray, Venus leave. This is just another wasted season assuming they are all allowed to see their contracts out and at the end of it we look likely to lose our best players if the status quo is maintained until then.

Yet as things stand it's likely to happen.

Critchley doing extremely well at Blackpool on a relative shoestring. A few on here have been touting him as a suitable replacement for Mowbray for a while.

Ideally we need to keep all of the soon to be out of contract players and bin off the Coventrio Lowe and Benson. That's the only hope we have of seeing any success.

By far the best article Crooke has produced and even amongst a number of good points, by far his most pertinent one is why any of the soon to be out of contract players would wish to commit to a Club that merely looks to be trying to get to through this season.

Thought you were claiming that people were alleging the flight would have cost in the region of half a mill. Apologies if that wasn't the case. The cost isn't really the issue here for me, it's yet another example of Mowbray wasting the owners' money like water. If BB had started the game and won us the three points then I would have said an outlay of £85k could have been justified. However he was brought back to essentially sit on the bench so whatever money the flight cost was completely wasted Even if the per capita cost of the flight was "only" 10-15k. In just the same way we've spewed countless sums away over the last few years on new contracts for players who simply weren't up to it, for our previously highest paid player to play for someone else in League 1, on temporary contract extensions for players who had never figured in the first place, on a contract extension for a lad whilst he recuperated from injury who was never going to play for us again and on a new deal for a player who was clearly on the decline due to age and predictably barely featured. And the cry is always the same "It doesn't matter, they won't be on much". Is it any wonder that after years of such gross mismanagement we can't afford to offer our better players acceptable deals?

What's the point you're trying to make other than being your usual contrary self? Never seen anyone allege it cost any more than a total of £85 k to fly BB back, and you yourself have noted it costs "from" 60 k Euros to fly over the Atlantic so the figures would roughly tally up. As to whether it was worth whatever we paid then I'd say it would have been worth it had he started and made a significant contribution to us winning the game. I think only Mowbray though could agree to or request that BBD be flown back specially at a cost of up to £85k then leave him sat on the bench for 87 mins!

I'm as unhappy as the next man the Coventrio are still in situ but the statement above is simply not correct. We've already seen an attempt to rectify Waggott's calamitous pricing strategy by the introduction of the 17 game season ticket and offers for individual games. That said, for me all minor improvements pale into insignificance until the Coventrio, Lowe, Benson etc are removed.

Oops, sorry yes. I was thinking that near the end before they scored.

He'd have to go some to beat replacing Nyambe with Gallagher at RB, then hooking Gallagher 10 mins later.

Didn't see the game tonight. No efforts on target? Are we playing 3 at the back just to accommodated this bloody loanee CB from Brighton? Never seen us play well using 5-3-2 or 3-5-2. Two points from twelve ........ here we go again!

Well, they aren't selling their garages apparently (that comes from someone who works for them) so I suspect any rumours linking the Issa's to Rovers are complete rubbish.

And yet, if it is true that we we are contributing 10k p.w. towards the completely useless Poveda's wages (as J*B claimed) any payments potentially due to Butterworth or his entourage could surely only be a few week's wages for the dolloper from Leeds? As someone said in the comments section of my letter on the potential sale of Brockhall, the whole thing with Butterworth also stinks worse than a tandoori kipper. Comes on in one of the home games with Khedra, between them they transform it and as a reward Butterworth hasn't had a kick since despite the manager lauding him in the local press. Man of honour our Tony.

3rd worst run in our history if you're going to be pedantic about it .....

Those were my thoughts exactly at the time, and I also expect he's been told to say something. If he can get that prickly about chants so tame, he won't react well to some serious gip. Ramp it up lads and lasses!

I did say there'd start to be changes...... The longest journey starts with the smallest step and all that.