RevidgeBlue

Wasn't it only in the summer that the Club were crowing about having installed new state of the art technology and facilities at the existing sites?

I've been down there and from memory the opposite is the case, the site where the senior facility is located is far bigger with all the outdoor pitches. Of the two buildings, the Academy one was I think built later and regarded as the more modern facility but in a much more compact area.

Spot on. Brockhall is also a vast estate with a sizeable chunk having been previously unused. I'd have felt easier if a small chunk had been sold off for housing and the existing sites were to remain untouched. Then, if you want to upgrade or modernise them feel free. This just feels like trying to squeeze every drop of profit they can out of the land and trying to shoehorn the Club's training centre into as small a building as possible.

This really does feel like the beginning of the end. The final disrespect to Jack's legacy. He would never have entertained such a notion because financially he didn't need to. Seemingly the Rao's are way richer than the Walkers so why do they need to do it either? It also stinks to high heaven that something along these lines happened at Coventry and look at the state they've been in over the years. My dislike for the Coventry mafia of Mowbray Venus and Waggott has now hit new heights. Anyone still in any doubt they're only interested in feathering their own nests? Not surprised the news was relayed to the LT by "a Club spokesman" and that no one has the courage to put their name to it.

Sacking managers every few years doesn't work......until they sacked the manager before Bielsa and got promoted two years later as a result!

Bernie had a bit more life about him than Mowbray.

**Tin hat on** I'll probably get slated for saying this but I want Mowbray out far more than I ever wanted Coyle out or arguably even Kean out. The reasoning behind this seemingly insane statement is that imo it's a full two years since it became blindingly obvious he was out of his depth at Championship level and needed to be replaced. With Coyle we were usually well in games until one or more pieces of calamitous defending invariably cost us and I never thought we played that badly under him or that the players ever stopped playing for him. Even Kean had us in 5th or 6th when he was sacked. That was relatively early on in the season and would probably have got worse but it's still a position TM could only dream of. If Mowbray had have been replaced two years ago I'd have had full respect for the job he did in stabilising us and bringing us back up. Instead it just seems to me he's been in full self preservation mode ever since with this "jam tomorrow" "slow build" crap to explain away his ownfailings. As a result I've grown to really dislike him and nothing in his managerial stats in the meantime has persuaded me I'm being unreasonable.

With respect, your suggestion that there was no point sacking Mowbray and we might as well just let him continue until the end of the season (despite presumably at the same time acknowledging he wasn't the man for the job) was an extremely bizarre one.

Same with Swag. They both clearly have zero affinity for the Club. If Mowbray got the Middlesbrough job to.orrow he'd probably talk them up like they were the biggest side in the world

The problem isn't that we haven't been tearing it up in the Premier League for a long time, we haven't been tearing it up in the Championship either! And to say "we haven't exactly been tearing it up" is probably the understatement of the century. The last 3 seasons have been absolutely dire despite very decent backing from the owners imo. Other Clubs have to wheel and deal and live within their means.

Yup.

Absolutely pitiful. Way worse than Preston imo. It's like he's deliberately trying to get sacked after the RB farce on Friday night and starting Bennett tonight then bringing Evans on when behind. Bit of straw clutching: 1) Could be a great night if this signals his departure 2) If anyone in India has seen these last 2 live Sky games surely even Swag would be hard pressed to bull up his mate's alleged qualities and keep him in a job? (Preferably both)

Jurgen "So how's it going Harvey?" Harvey "Not too bad boss. Except that he now seems to think someone called Elliot Bennett is better than me."

Three and a half minutes for Brereton. That'll do his confidence a world of good. Edit: What happened there? Our 2 CB's gone off early?

And right on cue......

Got skinned down our right side just before. Probably Nyambe's fault.

Nice of Gallagher to clear the ball for Barnsley before with a nice cushioned header back to their keeper when he had a chance to score. As a side issue, how has Brereton gone from being one of the first names on the team sheet to being virtually unable to get a minute on the pitch? Has he bulked back down again whilst being injured?

Have you actually got anything constructive to say about the shambles we witness out on the pitch week after week rather than just continually snipe at anyone who dares question Mowbray. Of course Mowbray is in pure self preservation mode. He isn't even being subtle about it now having the gall after 4 years here to suggest that we're only 28 games into a quest for promotion. And becoming increasingly arrogant and obnoxious during interview when being rightly questioned about things like sitting in the stand. It's hardly surprising. He knows he's bombproof with Waggott as CEO. Nor even Cole appointed his mate as his boss.

Amen to that. Mowbray is an absolute disgrace. No doubt if by some complete and utter fluke we get a result tonight certain posters will be on here after the match saying what a masterstroke it was.

Mowbray leaves at the end of 27/28 then?

I'm indifferent to rather than depressed by the news that Buckley has landed a new long term deal but in devil's advocate mode you could certainly argue that this is symptomatic of the general malaise affecting the Club. If your face fits - fail to impress - and land a long term deal. None of them seem to be under any pressure to perform, particularly it seems the manager whose only focus seems to be keeping the cushy status quo intact.

I wouldn't be completely averse to Holtby getting a relatively short term deal and even looking at Chapman again were we to change manager but other than that I couldn't agree more. We shouldn't even be entertaining the notion of any form of deals for Williams Evans, Downing, Bennett and Johnson. I'm sure TM will be desperate to keep them all together if he can though.

On Mowbray I've been wondering recently if he would have been regarded as fondly by the owners and sections of the fan base if, instead of being relegated, he'd succeeded in his originally allotted task of keeping us up then followed that up with the same finishes of 15th, 10th and another likely mid table finish. To met I reckon that would actually have been slightly more of an achievement but I suspect it would have been generally regarded as bang average at best and pretty damp poor at worst. The heavily bankrolled promotion from League 1 seems to have given a distorted view of Mowbray's managerial capabilities. Whilst he deserved credit for it it would have been a colossal failure had we not been promoted on that budget.

Disagree to the extent I don't think either have shown anything much at all but I think at least Buckley looks to have some innate natural ability. I really can't see what people rate in JRC, I can't see anything in him at all. Maybe like many others he'd be better in his natural position!

Bit of inconsequential news being paraded as a major coup here as no doubt the players who really matter won't commit. I think Buckley has natural ability, far more so than say JRC, but thus far he has failed to impose himself when given the chance. And it isn't as though he is 17 or 18.