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I almost agree with that but I would substitute the word "only" with "latest". The buck stops with them as it's their name over the door. Their overall record since taking over is horrendous. However I feel the reason for that is placing undue faith in the people they engage to run the Club on their behalf and who win their trust. They've (eventually) dispensed with numerous of the above in past, I'm at a complete loss to understand why the current miscreants are still in situ. Perhaps they like lemon drizzle cake.

Well, if they ever appointed a top manager it might. £280?m "invested" and they still don't appear to have grasped this basic fact yet.

When Williams was here an overall budget was agreed with the Walker Trust for the season and the manager and Board had complete autonomy within that budget. I very much doubt the situation is any different now. I expect it's only when Tony ***** up for the umpteenth time and they go over budget. they have to go back cap in hand for an extra body in or another loan or whatever. Failure to get deals over the line will be nothing to do with Venky's.

Absolute nonsense Gav. What have they done since relegation to the 1st Division that would cause a half competent manager to fail?

It depends whether you think the Club can succeed with Mowbray in charge really doesn't it? If like me you don't think that, then unfortunately everything else is virtually irrelevant and we're not going to particularly benefit from the appointment of a new HOR or by signing player X Y or Z. Unfortunately all roads DO lead back to him hence the need to mention it all the time. If this guy can transform our fortunes with Mowbray in charge then he really will be a genius. However, on the specific area of recruitment, I'd wager that even if he is unbelievable at finding hidden gems there's a fair chance it wouldn't make that much difference because we'd still have Venus trying (and failing) to get the deals over the line and/or Tony giving it his "You'll have to wait your turn" spiel. Venus is another Mowbray appointment - all roads lead back to Mowbray sadly.

Not aimed at you in particular chaddy but When we tank "let's give him until the end of the season and see where we are then" When it doesn't improve "let's see who he brings in in the summer" when there's no sign of activity "let's see where we are by the end of the window" when we start badly "let's give him until Christmas and see where we are then" When the congested Christmas period goes badly "let's give him the chance to see what we can do in the January window" When the season is dead by February "No point getting rid of him with only ---- games to go" And on and on it goes.

Never stopped you in the past! 🙂

Petulant reply from you - Mowbray and Waggott have done nothing whatsoever to justify their continued employment at the Club in recent seasons. In fact quite the opposite. Anyone else coming in with past connections to Mowbray is therefore bound to be regarded with extreme suspicion. But as far as recruitment goes he will get a clean slate and if it improves beyond all recognition after he arrives then he will quite rightly be lauded. And you know it. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your "brfcs is a cesspit of negativity" type agenda.

I've no desire to research Stuart Weber although I did read an online article on him a while ago after you were banging on about him. He seems an impressive enough individual, but that doesn't mean to say the role of a HOR/DOF will be successful everywhere with everyone. I thought my original question was a simple enough one to answer if you're into all those kinds of technicalities. In real terms is there no difference then?

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Irrelevant. Souness didn't recommend and install an out of work CEO he had worked under before.

So other than the title, what's the difference between a DOF and a HOR then?

First point, he might as well after choosing the CEO and now seemingly being on the point of choosing and confirming the Head of Recruitment. Second point, he isn't, but the CEO he chose no doubt would if he asked for it.

Must not have worked out for him at Legia Warsaw after only agreeing to join them in the latter part of January this year. They seemingly won the Polish League last season but that's fairly inconclusive as they've won it seven times in the last nine years overall.

It's unrealistic to think that we'll be recruiting from Europe in the immediate future due to the change in the EU rules. Still, I suppose he can lean back on the massive talent pool that is currently Scotland. Perhaps someone should point him in the direction of Motherwell, there's a lad who's been getting rave reviews up there, Tyler Magloire I think his name is?

Just seen Mowbray's interview in the LT from a while back regarding the recruitment process for the Head of Recruitment. Basically came across as he couldn't be arsed speaking to all of the candidates so before he got involved he let others whittle the numbers down to make things look good then he just steps in and appoints someone he knows.

Did someone say he's been out of work for the last 4 years? That would suggest not.

I suppose "The Coventrio" are effectively now the "Coventry Quartet" and need to be renamed as such. It beggars belief after the disaster that has been Mowbray inspired appointment Waggott's tenure at Ewood thus far.

Sorry to hear about Appleton's medical issues but he was atrocious whilst manager here.

There's a Covid related closure at the Academy I think, that may be the issue. Could be a lot more specific in our press release though.

I don't think there's anything wrong per se with Mowbray's purported footballing philosophy (which he fails to reproduce on the pitch.) He just isn't the man to implement it. There's no future going back to hoofing it long to a target man imo. We only finished 15th playing like that as well.

Maybe he's still angling for the sack, and by that I mean being released with a full pay off for the year remaining on his deal. Have to say that by coming out with comments like "I don't look at the League table" and "I let the players decide on their fitness" he must be sailing perilously close to the wind to the owners being able to sack him summarily without compensation for gross misconduct.

Wharton looked the business when he came in pre injury and Magloire hasn't had the chance to show what he can do here. Overall though I agree with you. I've never agreed with this "He's a good 'un let's loan him out" type sentiment. If they're good enough, we want them in our squad. If they're not good get rid. Over the years we've had numerous players hanging round indefinitely without ever featuring like O Sullivan.

I admire your confidence. I think there's a fair chance we could go down WITH Armstrong with this bloody manager at the helm, let alone without him. Fair point about his potential level of commitment. I'd rather sell him for £3m in Jan having hopefully secured enough points to make it unlikely we'll go down than this summer though

I know. I was just saying that sometimes there are players who are indispensable given your current situation such as Armstrong or Dack pre injury and players who are decent and who you'd like to keep but who could realistically be replaced like Lenihan. I'd push the boat out for the former Category, not so much the latter. Would you consider it worth it overall banking a net £6 or £7m for Armstrong, attempting to replace him on the cheap, the replacement not hitting it off, and us going down?