
RevidgeBlue
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Yes. I have been told that the Club got him out of the trouble he was in (which was pretty serious) and this led me to hope that he was one the Club had high hopes for as I think he looks a very handy player. However since then I believe he may have strayed off the straight and narrow again and whilst I don't think he's currently in the same sort of difficulty he was originally it would appear he's fallen out of favour.
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Im not suggesting bringing in players at the end of their careers with no resale value but you'd still have a potential for profit by bringing in a player of age 23 say. But don't pay £7m for a player then don't play him. I'm not even opposed in principle to the BB deal. I just don't understand why the manager won't give him a chance and he's never going to improve getting 15 mins now and then out of position.
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As I've said before, it will all depend on whether there is a release clause in his latest contract. If there is and there is sufficient interest then it's out of our hands to a large extent. Conversely if there isn't, then with him just having signed a new deal the ball's in our Court and we can either refuse to contemplate a sale or demand something completely ridiculous for him. Personally I would say selling him voluntarily in January would be fairly suicidal. Maybe a sale in the summer would give us slightly more chance to try and make alternative plans. In my opinion you never prosper selling your best players though. You have to keep hold of them and build round them.
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That's some fairly creative excuse making to justify 7m being spent on a guy to whom we won't hand a start. Yes the fee for BB will probably not be payable up front and will be spread over the life of the contract but so would be the fee for any other player! This assumption that he will be on relatively small wages is purely that, an assumption, and could be completely incorrect. In any case even if he was only on 10k p.w. as opposed to our top earners on 25k p.w. it would take nine or ten years to recoup the fee back in wage savings. I don't think either you can ever say that money spent on players who would go straight into the team and improve it would be dead or "sunk" money. If you take that view there's no point ever starting to try to improve whereas in reality it should be a continual process even if you've just won the League.
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Why would Burnley offload him?
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Not sure we could have afforded to pay big bonuses back then and if you're going to put yourself out of a job by being replaced with someone better..... Also from the Club's point of view there was no such thing as TV place/ money back then so the only incentive for going up was increased revenue from attendance and sponsorship balanced against having to replace practically an entire team to have a chance at survival.
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I was in the pro Shop at Blackburn Golf Club as a teenager once when I overheard Burnley Bob Coar telling the professional at the time we couldn't really afford to go up. How I managed to keep my mouth shut I've no idea.
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Rovers v Birmingham-Saturday ,December 15th
RevidgeBlue replied to Bigdoggsteel's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Once again you've misquoted me and accused me of saying something completely different to what I actually said. I said "the failing" (of leaking goals and being able to hold on to a lead) was reminiscent of the season under Coyle. I suspect you're doing this intentionally. If not I'm assuming people can actually read what I post on here and won't sort of half read it then go off at the deep end having completely misinterpreted what I posted. -
I nexer met Saxton and Im sure he was a good bloke and everything but I think there are some slightly rose tinted recollections of his time in charge. My impression thinking back is that he was way too loyal to certain players ( can't think who that sounds like) that the Board stuck with him for far too long, and things went badly South towards the end of his reign. There was also another season before it went wrong when we were clear at the top by 3 or 4 points at Christmas and I was thinking we only needed another nine or ten wins from twenty odd game to secure promotion to the promised land of Division One pre Sky, pre the Premiership and pre Uncle Jack only for us to completely implode and finish nowhere. It looked like there were some players assessing their situation and coming to the conclusion that if we were promoted they'd be out of the door in the second half of that season. Don McKay eventually came in to replace him from a relatively unassuming background (one of the Dundee Clubs I think) and was fat superior to Saxton in every way imo. He was on a shortlist of three and I was expecting Gary Bowyer's dad Ian to get the job. Cant remember who was the 3rd person shortlisted.
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Summer 2018: We needed a big nasty centre half, a ball winning midfielder at least one wide man and at least one striker. Reed has been the only success but he's being utilised out of position, is only on loan and I doubt he'll be our player next season. January 2019: We still need virtually the same as in the summer i.e. a big nasty centre half, at least one wide man and at least one striker. Let's hope we do a lot better this time round and that if we do sign anyone else they get a chance.
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Rovers v Birmingham-Saturday ,December 15th
RevidgeBlue replied to Bigdoggsteel's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I think as usual Parson you're vastly over-estimating the contribution of Graham. On Saturday, once again for me he looked miles off the pace and I don't think he touched the ball during the first eighteen minutes before making a very well timed run to score. He is in a very rich vein of scoring form but contributed little else before being withdrawn and I don't think you can in any way shape or form attribute our collapse to his withdrawal. There is something not quite right with this group of players and I'm not sure what it is but if I had to speculate on the most likely reason I'd say that the manager's negative mindset has embedded itself in the players psyche. When we take the lead the aim seems to be to see the game out rather than seeing if we can press on and put the game beyond doubt. This invariably leads to the opposition putting us under pressure and more often than not to them scoring. If that does happen we seem to completely go to pieces and have no idea how to tough the game out or even step our own game up and start giving the opposition problems again. As others, have said, whilst Raya made a bad mistake for the first, that doesn't necessarily mean the game has to end 2-2 and a well disciplined and organised side should have been quite capable of seeing the game out. The first place I'd be shining the microscope is at our two so called holding midfielders Evans and Smallwood. Their lack of creativity is well documented but when the pressure is on they're about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. They're the two who should be picking up the tempo when we suffer a setback, who should be reclaiming the game by the scruff of the neck and who should be ensuring the opposition do not pass. I think it's obvious to most Rovers fans that Reed, who is many times the player either of the other two are, should be in the middle instead of being wasted out wide. -
Rovers v Birmingham-Saturday ,December 15th
RevidgeBlue replied to Bigdoggsteel's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I don't think I've ever been as cold and uncomfortable watching a game as I was yesterday but when Armstrong scored an excellent second goal I consoled myself witth the thought that "Oh well at least we've got the three points." Should've known better and I am now thoroughly hacked off with this group of players after in consecutive games watching them fail to draw with ten men over 70 mins then failing to win after taking a two goal lead at home. It's nothing new and indeed we would have squandered a three goal lead at Stoke had they not missed a penalty. I don't know what it is but we're lacking a certain something which is stopping us from getting over the line in games be it bottle, concentration, panic, desire or whatever. Whatever it is it's up to Mowbray to sort it out because the failing is very reminiscent of the season under Coyle and it could still be a bit of a slog to safety if we continue to fold like a deck of cards whenever we're put under a bit of pressure. -
Well, yes, it's not my money we're wasting and if it was a case of funds being unlimited and we ended up with Reed AND Evans I could put thisdown as an irrelevance and fools and their money being easily parted etc. i presume it's not quite as simple as that though, I assume we're still paying lip service to FFP so every penny spent on players who won't improve us like Evans is less available to spend on players who will take us forward like Reed.
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Couldn't agree more Stuart. If I didn't have a ST already and was thinking about investing in a half ST the thought of having to watch Evans for another 2 and a half years would be more likely to put me off than inspire me to make a purchase. Now if it was the news that Reed had signed a pre contract agreement with a view to penning a permanent deal on Jan 1st......... then you'd be talking.
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Disappointed with this news. Not good enough and if we are looking to improve we should be looking to offload Evans and put the money saved towards bringing in better players who can take us forward at this level such as Reed.
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x 1000. When I was at Boro on Saturday I noticed half ST's were on sale at approx £275. Rather puts into perspective people moaning at our full season ticket prices starting at £320.
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You're the only one embarrassing yourself by constantly hinting over the last couple of years that you work in the game and inferring your opinion therefore carries so much more weight than anyone else when in fact you've conceded today that in fact it is nothing of the case. Edit: As for your scorn about my point that good players can adapt, I've lost count of the number of ex-players I've heard say that, the last one I can specifically remember being Dean Saunders, so I'll defer to their opinion on that.
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We might disagree but no need to be disagreeable. If you're guessing at BB's wages then that makes your argument in that respect somewhat redundant. As for Armstrong my understanding was that the player himself had expressed a clear preference for playing more centrally and my recollection from last season was that he was used a lot more centrally and looked much more dangerous using his pace from that position.
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I don't actually agree at all with any of your points there. 1) He's not concentrating on the player by not giving him a chance is he? It seems to me that paying a huge fee for the lad then refusing to hand him a start or play him in his natural position is the best way to destroy his confidence. 2) If he wanted to carry on playing that system, all the more reason why the main summer signing needed to be someone capable of coming in and replacing Graham. 3) Armstrong isn't being given a chance in his preferred position either and is suffering accordingly 4) Good players can adapt instantly 5) Don't understand this point. We chose to pay £7m for him, whether he was first choice or 5th choice is completely irrelevant. For that price he has to be ready. My main gripe with your argument though is this assumption that BB will be on low wages. Do we KNOW for a fact that this is the case or is it simply something you've invented to suit your argument? If I was BB's agent I'd want him to be on top whack if I was negotiating a deal of that magnitude.
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Hate that sort of arrogant attitude that implies that everything a football professional says or does is correct whereas the opinion of someone who isn't a football professional is worthless.
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I would have said it's far from laughable. What is laughable is that we've agreed to pay £7m for a player who although fit has yet to start a League game. The only 2 plausible explanations are 1) We have to pay a hefty premium every time he starts a game prior to the move being made permanent. or 2) He wasn't TM's choice and TM either doesn't fancy him or is deliberately omitting him to make a point that he's the boss.
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Venky's could probably find the transfer money and wages for Reed down the back of the sofa if they really wanted. The problem though is that if we continue to push the boat out then at the end of 3 years when we have lost more than 39 m over that period, the day of reckoning will come and we'll fall foul of FFP once again. This is why if we spend big money on Brereton or anyone else they need to be capable of going straight into the first team and making an immediate impact despite all the nonsense being spoken about him being "one for the future" etc. That applies equally whether the primary motive is to try and achieve promotion asap or to bring in a succession of young players we can flog for a profit to boost revenue and avoid falling foul of FFP.
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Championship 2018-19
RevidgeBlue replied to Cherry Blue's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Oops! Indeed. Apologies. As I'm sure everyone has managed to figure out over his last 2 jobs at Stoke and Ipswich combined it's W2 D9 L10 which doesn't make it any the less poor despite your use of the laughing emoji to pour scorn on my post! -
Bowyer (or maybe his Dad Ian) produced a number of good signings though. Not just one exceptional signing in isolation.
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Middlesborough away Sat 8th Dec
RevidgeBlue replied to Scratch Andy's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Agree to a point but he still had to revise his mindset from "staying in the game" until half time and being happy to grind out 1.5 points per game for survival etc to obtaining the 2 points per game for automatic promotion so credit has to be given there. Moving forward however I disagree survival is a given under Mowbray. We need to continually improve. We might finish mid table this season but If we stand still long term we'll slide backwards.