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I always thought Waggott ran it as though the intention was to run the Club steadily into the ground until there was virtually nothing left.

Generally, £1m doesnt get you much these days. I'd be surprised if Kargbo who we spent roughly that on turns out to be as good as Dolan.

100%. Ditto Lowe, Bennett, Hedges, Gallagher etc etc.

You've pretty much nailed it there. Yes, they shouldn't have got themselves in the position they have with the Indian Authorities in the first place, but they have the wherewithal to work round it and SHOULD have the willingness to do so as well.

Saw some comments on Redditt from Sunderland fans who were basically saying that they hated Bain with a passion and they felt the documentaries were framed in such a way as to shift blame away from him and on to Ellis Short. Didn't realise he'd been at Rangers during an infamous period as well. Extremely worrying.

Look like we've got more fitness staff than players.

Apologies if it came across as a pop at you, it wasn't you who was being objectionable about it.

So basically you're admitting that ( notwithstanding his faults) he is/was still one of our better players? I have to say that people complaining about Dolan when we've got Hedges on the other side is one of the most bizarre things I've seen in my time watching football.

I know you're one of their fiercest critics which is why I'm suggesting dont give them any means, no matter how tenuous, by which some people might think they're being slightly hard done to. The conditions haven't prompted a sale so far, but that was with a Szmodics and Adam Wharton and Raya sell on fee tucked up their sleeve as insurance. The cupboard is practically bare now and the tipping point may arrive after Carter is sold and Brittain/Travis/Tronstad either walk out for nothing or depart for nominal fees due to their contractual situations.

Again, maybe the owners never specifically asked the Court for transfer funding as actually they felt all this was quite a convenient excuse for them not having to send as much over as previously and were rather scared the Court might say "Yes"? Hence just create the impression that funding for transfers would not be allowed. Either way we're not being funded properly so the situation is completely unsatisfactory whichever way up you look at it. It's just a subjective matter of opinion as to which interpretation of events is the worst look. Whether Waggott got told telling a white lie and they can't fund us properly (Upside Down and Ira) or whether there's nothing actually stopping them funding us but they just dont want to. (Me and FB).

I didn't get "taken for mugs" about anything. People can argue until the cows come home whether the conditions imposed by the Court are an "impediment" or not. Either way, the owners haven't been sending over like they used to, but clearly they can if they want, because they've just sent £4.85 million over. So to the extent that they haven't been sending money, it's because they CHOOSE not to, not because the Court has said they can't. That to me is far worse than them wanting to send money but being unfairly blocked by the Court from doing so. As the most vociferous critics of Venkys, I'm surprised you and Ira persist with this fixation about "there's no impediment" then. First of all there clearly isn't in real terms, as money has now been sent over several times. But more importantly, if there was a genuine impediment to them funding us, then that's the kind of thing that those who are mildly sympathetic to them (such as the buffoons/plants on the Club website) latch on to as an excuse to feel sorry for them.

If Dolan is "bang average" what does that make Hedges?

Yes, no surprises for guessing who!

I wouldn't disagree with making Travis top earner and I also wouldn't disagree with giving Dolan £15k p.w. I suspect the figures quoted are in the right ball park. I'd be amazed if we're offering Dolan more than £10k p.w. if that.

Yes we've signed a couple of players who allegedly fit the narrative thats been put about - and one who most certainly doesnt. There's little point discussing signings with you chadster, we could sign literally anyone and you'd be happy with it. If we don't sign anyone that's also always the right decision as well. And you always dismiss any player who signs for another Club as crap. The most recent case in point is Batth/ Weimann / Forshaw. Because we-ve actually gone and re-signed 33 year old Forshaw you're happy with that but you're seemingly not in favour of re-signing 33 year old Weimann or 34 year old Batth on account of their age. However in the unlikely event we did persuade either to re-sign I'm sure you'd be delighted again and declare them excellent signings.

Whatever date his contract expires. He'll want that £600k p.a. for as long as possible. Who do I send my quid to? Lol.

I dont know but I'd wager he's on a very low wage at the moment relatively speaking. I'd assume he was after something like parity with other senior members of the squad and we're trying to lowball him.

Personally I feel we're scraping the bottom of an extremely deep barrel with these signings but you're right, have to give them a chance etc etc. On the other hand just because certain players who might not have looked very promising when they were signed last year might have exceeded expectations, doesn't mean that this year's seemingly uninspiring batch will do the same.

It might possibly be true for new signings but it still seems a bit far fetched to me. It's a potential nightmare for team spirit and bonding. You'd have the newbies on sub 10 k, the ones who've had their contracts extended who'll be on something half decent and then the odd one like Cantwell who's allegedly on £25k - £30k p.w. Half of them would be looking at the others thinking, "Why's he on so much more than me?"

Can't see how the 10k wage cap can be a thing otherwise we wouldn't be able to trigger the extensions on players like Hyam.

Thanks. I've never seen the Sunderland Documentaries. Sounds like now might be the time to do it.

Was he involved in those fly on the wall documentaries?

Lol. "All good. Nothing to see here."

Sounds promising. This bloke, low grade foreign punts, Forshaw, we've given up any pretence of wanting to do well now haven't we? Accelerating hard towards the precipice.

Never forgive that loathsome individual for trying to sell off half of Brockhall. Despite the fact he really wanted another year He's probably thinking he got out at more or less the right time. Having made sure he topped up his bank balance first of course.