If that we're true there'd only be half a dozen, none-newbies on the board. Over the last 12 months the vast majority of this board seem to have become ever more infuriated with Emo (granted, I wasn't one of them and Emo had his best game since his first under Hughes). Typical ignorant chimp trying to score points off new users instead of cutting them some slack.

Nirvana's Nevermind is an album that everyone should own and the first time I heard Nirvana's unplugged set for MTV it blew my mind. Likewise I though the The Streets "Original Pirate Material" was amazing when I first heard it (and to be fair, still do) but I was massively disapointed with "A Grand Don't Come For Free", it just doesn't cut it for me, I empathised with Skinner's characters in OPM, but in AGDCFF it's more "day in the life of a Chav". I've just listened to The Stone Roses "Second Coming" album on the way to/from work and I'm plesently surprised. I hated it the first time around (it was such a let down after the first album) but now it has an appeal I missed the first time around, although I still feel John Squire is trying to push his guitar too far and whilst technicaly excellent is just "too much" in parts.

Important Update I've just had it confirmed that the South Stand has indeed been rebuilt and no longer has obstructed views or uncomfortable seats. Also, the Clarence Harbour is no longer there (shame, becuase it was a bloody good boozer).

The Ground Note this is based on Rovers visit to New Years Day on 2002 and as the South Stand was due for either rebuilding or major improvements in the near future it may now be completly out of date. Carrow Rd is an all seater stadium and away fans are allocated part of the covered South Stand which runs alongside the pitch. The stand is quite old and lacking many facilities found in more modern stadium. Food is available (under the stand) which includes the excellent Hollands Pies. Smoking is allowed, but beer is not available. The seats whilst being plastic are remarkedly uncomfortable, and a large number of seats have views obscured by some large supporting pillars. The ground is about 15 mins walk from the city centre and about 5 from the station. Pubs The entire city seems to welcome away fans and with over 200 pubs it offers a huge choice. An excellent pub guide for all of Norwich can be found at http://www.norwichpubs.co.uk There are quite a few pubs within a few minutes walking distance of the ground and everywhere we went was dead friendly. One pub that is popular with away fans that we have been unable to comment on is The Compleat Angler which was closed during our last visit. Of the ones we did try. The Dragon's Cave The Dragons Cave can be found on the corner of Carrow Road and Kings Street just after the small lift bridge over the river that you will pass just before the ground (if arriving by car). This was a medium size pub with very friendly staff, large screen Sky Sports and a pool table around the back. Lager was around £2 a pint, but unfortunately it was served in plastic glasses and whilst there was a selection of bitters (including Boddingtons) no Real Ale was available. Be warned if you are attempting to meet people here as no mention of the pubs name can be found on the exterior. The pub has a small car park out front and a slightly larger one around the back, but both are reserved on match days. The Ferry Boat Located a few hundred yards along the Kings Street from The Dragons Cave it is possibly one of the most deceptive pubs we've seen. On entering the front door it appears to be a VERY small 'local' however a small door leads onto a corridor with a couple more larger rooms, one with a large screen TV and another with a large stone floor aimed at a families and dinners. It also has a beer garden overlooking the river. A selection of bitters (Greene King) and lagers was available and was thankfully served in real glasses. The food looked excellent and wasn't too expensive. The Coach & Horses The Coach and Horses can be found on Thorpe Street which runs parallel to the railway (on the opposite side to the ground). The pub is very close to both the station and the coach parks so often gets very busy with both home and away fans. Whilst much of the memorobilia adorning the walls is rugby related, on match days this is definately a football pub. A range of Real Ale was available (in real glasses) and some good looking food (they also have a special 'Football Menu'which is mainly burgers, sandwiches and chips and was quite expensive . The toliets also had big chalk boards encouraging you to abuse your opponents in a non-destructive way. There is a small (full) car park out front and a few tables. The Clarence Harbour Located just a hundred yards or so from the ground it is located on Carrow Road nearest the Away end of the South Stand it can get VERY busy in the run up to kick off. There are 4 real ales on offer and a hand pump Mild. The Clarence Harbour also sells their own home brew "On The Ball" brewed by the "Canary Brewing Company". Unfortunately plastic glasses are used but it is nice to have a pub close to the ground were home and away fans can happily mix. Inside is large, but its normally packed solid and normally people spill out onto the veranda and car park. Sky sports is available inside and the bar service was very quick and this is another pub with an abuse your opponents style chalk board in the gents. The pub has a car park which is on a first come first served basis however if you do park at the pub they do like you to buy a pint in the bar. Food Burger vans can be found outside the ground (as is to be expected). These can be found by the ticket office, outside The Dragons Cave and outside The Clarence Harbour. For those wishing to eat something more substantial there is a Frankie & Bennys around the back of Morrisions. There is a Kentucky Fried Chicken two minutes away from The Compleat Angler (head down Prince of Wales St away from the station). Travel Unless you happen to be coming from Cromer you are likely to encounter the A47 which acts as a bypass around the southern edge of the city. Exit the A47 onto the A146 and head towards the centre. After traveling along the A146 for nearly 1 mile turn right onto the A1054. At the roundabout go straight on still following the A1054 and then take the first right onto the A147. When the A147 bears right Carrow Road should be straight ahead, just across the river. There is no parking available at the ground but there is parking available in front of the County Hall on Martineau Lane which is quite close to the ground (a mile or so) and cheap at only £1 and is well signposted on the route into the ground. Other options include independant 'Match Day' car parks on the Riverside Park, but these can take a long time to get off as the Police close the road for a while after the game. Note Morrisions (which is right opposite the ground) DO NOT allow football parking when they are open. Free street parking is available around the station area, but watch out for permit only schemes on the roads around the ground. The closest station is Norwich (known as Norwich Thorpe many years ago), which is about 10 minutes walk away. Leave the station via the main exit and turn left through the industrial wasteland and past the Riverside development. Follow the River to Carrow Bridge and the ground is easily visible from here. Fans/Stewards/Police Fans were very welcoming in the pubs before hand, police were numerous but low key. Pics To Follow Websites To Follow

4004. I went to get mine after the Pompey game (I resent the £2 phone booking fee) but there was a long queue .... so I went in Blues until it died down .... and left it too long . So I'll order mine in the morning.

Away Only Pub - The Fernhurst, Bolton Rd, 5 mins from the ground. Just follow the road from the away end. Home Pubs (some of which welcome away fans for smaller games). Blues - Blackburn End - Home Season Tickets Holders Only The Fox & Hounds - 2 mins from ground, just off Livesey Branch road. The Ewood Arms The Navigation The Aqueduct The Manxman The Brown Cow The Ivy The Infirmary The Golden Cup Uncle Jacks.

Well, this is one most of you should be able to help with. I'm going to do it two sections, one for Opposition fans visiting Ewood and one for Rovers fans (because everyone has to have their first visit to Ewood at some point). So, reviews of you match day watering holes, tips from getting from Mill Hill station, places to park that allow you to be on the motorway less than an hour after the final whistle etc.

This sounds really silly after my last post about guitar driven indie rock (but I've got VERY wide range in musical tastes) but I've had that very same CD on in the car recently and it is superb. Just hearing "We have ..... a whole lot of superstars on this stage tonight" still breaks me out in goosebumbps. Although I have to admit that My Adidas seems a little "shallower" now than when it was released Have they ever done a "greatest videos" DVD as I'd love to see the Penn & Teller It's Tricky video again. Being a big metal fan when I was younger, but also getting into the newly emerginging rap and hip stuff of the early to mid 80s anything that blurred the lines (Run DMC, Public Enemy and The Beastie Boys on one side and Anthrax on the other) was fine by me. Another album I've refound lately (that I imagine never got released in the states) was Derek B's Bullet From A Gun. A fantastic and underated album at the time and well worth another listen nowadays.

I've probably plugged This EtAl before, but as I'm going to see them at The Cockpit tomorrow I may as well do so again. They are an up and coming (unsigned, but won the futuresound competition to get a place at The Leeds festival) guitar driven band from Bradford/Leeds. They list their main influences as Mogwai, Queens of the stone age and Interpol, but personally I can hear signs bands like The Smiths, Radiohead and Joy Division, (but thats probably because they are more my kind of thing ). Anyway, get yourself along to http://www.thisetal.com/media.asp and download half a dozen free tracks and let me know what you think. What's more they kick ass live ! I'm convinced these guys are going to be big (and the last band I said that about were CARTER USM after watching them play to about 200 students and The Sugar House in Lancaster).

That is the first sensible argument for closing this thread I've heard, although surely the LET naming then has already done that. Plus nobody has asociated board names with real names.

I would say Designer clothes because that is how pathetic the police are. That is the only way they can describe a football hooligan. Arrr come one, you're teling me you're one of only 17 lads in Blackburn with a penchant for Stone Island and Aquascutum ? If that was their criteria then there'd be so many guys (and a few gals) up that the LET would have to a special pullout supplement to name everyone ! There has to be more to it than that, I know loads of lads that look the part but have never been threatened with a banning order. As you seem to be quite game at answering everyone's questions (apart from philipl's on page one or two), regarless of how rude or insulting, can I ask have you previously be found guilty of any violence related offences ? I'm not condeming you if I do (well, I am, but not with regard the banning order), I'm just very intrested in working out WHY the police have target you 17. The whole "preventative" without evidence is against everything I believe in and football fans have their civil liberties infringed like no other group in this country (and whilst you can argue that this is because of the actions of hooligans, it doesn't make it right). Can I also remind people that, in this case, none of the 17 has yet been found guilty and !inocent until proven guilty" is still a basic right in this country (well, in theory).

OK, I have a question for you BRFCC. What single incident do you think contributed most to the police suspecting you enough to believe they could get a banning order against you ? I'm a big privacy advocate and object strongly to recorded, tracked and monitored by the police. I'm tracked, not because I've done anything wrong, but because I share common details (such as where I drink, which games I attend, what I wear etc) with those that do. I'd like to know what makes the jump from just another stat to being enough of a treat to be worth trying to get a banning order for.

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Although mainly Div 1 clubs, the best put guides on the planet are Firmo's. Although they're been written by a Dingle, he's obviously brighter than the rest because he got out and lives in London.

Ground Visiting fans are normally allocated the lower tier of the East stand which runs along the side of the pitch and is a a gently shelving, uncovered area, situated below the home fans in the covered stand (watch out for the little darlings dropping cups of steaming hot coffee from the above stand as happened a couple of season ago). From memory, no views are obscured. One of the odd things about Chelsea is the multi-gate system which means prior to kick off the conconcorse (which sells beer) is open to anyone, with or without a ticket (and home and away fans mix happily) , however after kick off a set of outter doors are locked and the turnstile door opened allowing people inside the ground access to them instead. Travel Chelsea is approached off the M25. Exit the M25 at junction 15 onto the M4 and follow this as it runs into the A4. Staying on the A4 go over the Hammersmith Flyover and travel a further 1.5 miles before turning right down Warwick Road (A3220) past Earls Court. Follow this down into Finborough Road and then at the junction with Fulham road turn right. The ground is on the right. There is an underground car park at the Chelsea Village and limited street parking. Many visitors park at tube stations around outer London and catch the tube in. Pubs Pretty much everything around the ground seems to be home fans only, leaving visiting fans to drink elsewhere in London. such as Rovers favourite, The 8 Bells at Putney Bridge. Police, Stewards, Fans It has to be said that the last few season have brought some very negative reports of all three, including stewards throwing somebody out for standing up to take a mobile out of their pocket, police hospitalizing a Rovers fan after pushing him down the stairs whilst exiting the grounds and fans thowing random punches at Rovers fans in replica shirts. Pics To follow. Websites To Follow.

This thread is for general info regarding away days that don't relate to any ground in particluar (or ones that a thread has yet to be created for).

The Ground Visiting Fans are normally allocated a section of the South Stand (aka the Jimmy Seed Stand). Some seats are obscured views and beer was available in the ground last season. Travel Motorists should approach via the M25 and exit at Junction 2 and then take the A2 towards London. The A2 eventually becomes the A102. At the first roundabout after joining the A102 take the third exit towards Woolwich Ferry. After one mile turn right Charlton Church Lane and then left into Floyd Road. Charlton station is about 5-10 mins walk away from the ground. Exit the station, cross Charlton Church Lane and go down Floyd Road which is opposite the station. Floyd Road takes you to the ground. Drinking A common meeting place for Rovers fans is the Antigalican, which despite a large main room can get very very busy in the run up to kick off. It's about 10 mins walk to the ground and gets a good mix of home and away fans . The Anti-G has giant screen Sky Sports, but getting a spot where you can see it may be a problem. It's on the corner of Charlton Church Lane, almost directly opposite the train station. Slightly nearer the ground is a Liberal Club (about 200 yards up the hill from the station) with a main room more suited to social functions that football fans, but the atmosphere was friendly enough last season. CIU members were free, non-members we're welcomed but had to pay a small entry fee. The Fans, Stewards and Police Had quite a laugh with the stewards last time and I honestly don't remember seeing any police ! The fans are great and have a lot in common with Rovers fans. Websites The official website is www.charlton-athletic.co.uk The best of the unofficial sites is Forever Charlton. Maps Multimap (Ground & Station) Pics To Follow This entry is based on the details from www.awayguide.net © 2004-2004

I've just had a fourth report confirming that all three visited Brockhall last week. Not that there's any great surprise in that, I'd imagine anyone with a vague interest in the job would have had a look around by now.

We're limited by the number of entries you can have in a poll, if we'd have done one you'd have all moaned "why isn't X,Y or Z" included.

PA Newswire I'd imagine.

Can't you see it ? For Sale and Wanted or something like that we called it. I'll test it with my "normal user" account in case we stuffed it up in the move.

I've had 3 spearate reports today (including one from Tris just now that reminded me to post it) that the shortlist is Hughes, Stachen and Moyes. However, there is northing to say that these reports don't originate from the same source who is wrong, then again, two of the three got the Souness leaving rumour to me before it happened. So make of it what you will.

Yup, that's the one ..... and thanks for not quoting the entire article

They came with a game plan (of course, only pub teams and Rovers don't have a game plan before they kick off) They came with one goal in mind, to stop us playing football. That ref was minging (Off Camera) [ Newcastle's Equivalent of ... ] Wendy 's gonna rip me to shreads after that bag of #### perfmance, you go and talk to her instead Deano.

12ish. Leaving Soon. Parking at Felling, Metro in.