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Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
roversfan99 replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
The overreaction to peoples reactions about the letter are as bizarre as the overreactions themselves. Although I think to some it is a trigger to the boards incompetencr rather than an issue with anything Ismael has said. Probably didnt write it, even if he did, full of typical manager speak. Im sure he never has given 2 thoughts to our title win, and the rest is just standard manager speak like they all give. Not worth thinking about. -
Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
roversfan99 replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Cantwell doesnt scream an Ismael player at all. Ball usually in the air, and a strict discipinarian might see a repeat of his Rangers situation. -
Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
roversfan99 replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I know that you cant possibly fathom that there are any risks or any red flags associated with him as a manager so there is little point debating. There are potentially encouraging signs from his past and potential concerns from his past but you as ever can only comprehend the former. One result shouldnt have sped the process up either way, assuming it did. Because they should have already been doing the thorough process as urgently as they could. So either they wasnt, or they panicked upon the loss at the weekend and rushed. Ive no doubt that youll be unable to comprehend that and will miss the point and say something like they were getting the right man which I am aware of. My point is, no individual match either way should have changed the speed of the process, whether that be a win slowing them down or a loss speeding them up. As that would be an incredibly reactive way of doing things. -
Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
roversfan99 replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
A regular criticism seems to be that he doesnt really have a plan B so I am not sure how adaptable he is. He moved away from his blood and thunder long ball style somewhat at Watford and that was his least successful spell in English football. Not being in a relegation battle doesnt mean that his time at West Brom or Watford wasnt unsuccsssful. Man City arent in a relegation scrap but they are still having a bad season. Lets hope we get more of Barnsley Ismael than West Brom or in particular Watford Ismael. The key is to accept that this prior evidence that he can do well at this level and also there is evidence that there are chinks in his armoury and he can underachieve. Anyone shooting down any possible criticisms and suggesting that there are no concerns or equally anyone saying outright that its a terrible appointment are IMO lacking any semblence of balance. I dont understand the idea of the Plymouth result speeding up the process. That suggests that either they didnt have any urgency or proactivity to begin with, quite likely, and/or they then rushed following a loss. -
Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
roversfan99 replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
He really didnt have a period of time where we played hoofball to Armstrong. I suspect that such is your bizarre dislike of him where your hatred of him randomly spews out when he hasnt been previously mentioned, his time here has become an absolute disaster in your mind when all in he did a good job. For what its worth, every manager (and player) is here for the packet. In his last season, he publically showed his frustration at not getting funds either that summer or in January when he wasnt able to trade freely. On the topic of player treatment, all the players seemed to love Mowbray. Not the case with Tomasson (who I liked as a manager, again did a good yet flawed job in a different way) who seemed to be tactically ahead but lacking on the man management side. Coming back on topic, Ismael seems to also have history with man management question marks. Lets hope they dont happen here and he can get the players playing to their maximum. -
Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
roversfan99 replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Does your seat at Ewood face the pitch? Mowbray certainly had faults but he didnt play hoof ball to Armstrong. When he was up front, we tried to dominate the ball and it didnt work, so quite the opposite. Im sure Mowbray must have done something to you personally as your hatred isnt normal. -
Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
roversfan99 replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Not the most exciting appointment, and lots of red flags. Doesnt stay at places long, questions about his man management and also his ability to sustain his very direct style of football especially when teams learn how to deal with it. But equally it could have been worse and he did a very good job at Barnsley and although he underperformed in his subsequent 2 jobs, it certainly wasnt disastrous. A big shower of comments about getting behind him, giving him a chance and to stop being negative all on page 1. People do realise that being critical in any way of the appointment or raising any concerns doesnt equate to him coming out to a chorus of boos on Saturday? People will be behind him like they always are. But if they arent totally happy with the appointment, let them say so. Lets hope he has learnt from his mistakes and becomes less predictable in terms of his style of play, and also lets hope he fits our club similar to how he did at Barnsley. The likes of Karanka, Boateng and Boa Morte would have been the ones to avoid. Certainly much more to cling on to with Ismael in a positive way. But ultimately the shit show of how we screwed Eustace over and the underlying mess that remains made this a very difficult appointment, and its hard to just brush off losing a very talented manager in that way.- 392 replies
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It seems counterproductive to either dismiss his time at West Brom/Watford or alternatively his time at Barnsley dependant on your overall opinion of the appointment.
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Didnt expect to see posters falling over themselves boasting about recruitment that they have done in the past for their companies as a means of justifying/criticising the recruitment of a manager by a (dysfunctional) football club. But there you go.
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Recruiting a football manager isnt really comparable to anything else.
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To be fair, in his first season he mainly had Carter with him and he got player of the season.
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Seems strange considering that he managed to get them into the play offs which was very impressive. Why doesnt he rate him? Purely on style? From what I have seen, its West Brom and Watford fans who dont rate him. He had really strong squads and after a decent start things soon went sour. I think you put up his record cropped from wikipedia. No, just the best players we have.
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Am I right i thinking that you was (and may very well still be) very much for the appointment the other day?
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Like I said, I am personally underwhelmed but not totally against it to the point that I can acknowledge reasons why he COULD be a good appointment. I personally see more points against than for overall but its a mixed bag. Are there any points against his appointment in your book? Even allowing for the fact that your overall opinion is that you are for Ismael being appointed, and acknowleding potential concerns would not change that overall feeling. For example, you said the other day that we need a manager for the "short, medium and long term." Ismael has NEVER stayed anywhere for very long. Any concern there?