roversfan99

How do you think that Markanday would fare in La Liga?

Coyle won 5 of his first 18 league games. (And won in the cup) I often see people point to the likes of Szmodics and Brereton when people question anyone to suggest that they dont rate a player early doors. But equally, there are far more examples of players who struggle early doors who go on not to make the grade. I think personally to say outright that Ismael is shit and deserves to be sacked, or similar, would be over the top. But equally I dont see much evidence to be "all in" on him. Not that it matters much as hes here for the duration either way.

I see that Elliott Jackson is today pushing a narrative that the fans should be "all in" on Ismael. Where do people stand on him at the moment? Amidst the shit storm of what happened off the pitch in the summer, the only thing that really seems to be discussed (understandably) is whether he is truly genuinely happy, whether he can be happy or whether hes towing the party line sat on his long contract. He has obviously had some big difficulties as do all of our managers under these twats. But how convinced are people that he is the best man to take us forward? I certainly am not "all in" on him personally, obviously I back him and desperately hope he does well as he is the current manager but I would say I am 30-40% convinced that hes any good. There have been glimmers of promise and a lot of mitigating factors but a lot to do to fully convince me personally. Hopefully he can really change my mind by putting a run of results together starting from last Saturday.

Not wrong though.

That option being to spurn any chance of building an attack by repeatedly standing offside.

Surely we arent potentially criticising a player for being available every week?

But we have lost a hell of a lot in defence. And that defence did really well last season and earnt lots of clean sheets. Hyam, Batth and Brittain were all excellent last season. Of course there is something to the injury concerns between Carter and Wharton. Carter has repeatedly picked up muscular injuries over the last 2 seasons and picked up another 30 minutes into pre season. Wharton missed 16 months with a terrible knee injury. But the issue is compounded with only having one other senior centre back. If theres any area of the team that is most likely to be downgraded, its the back 4.

I would certainly say weaker. It wasnt the plan to lose so many key players and its easy to underestimate how good they were at this level. Signs on the new recruits are mixed as you would expect.

Yeah, I also cant understand the fixation about 4 (well, 6) key players all leaving the club because we cant sort first team contracts out. Only a minor issue.

Yeah if they have big doubts that the manager is right for where they are now, theres not much point allowing loyalty and perceptions about what they "deserve" to overrule that for a randomly chosen period of time. Its a poor example and there will be more obvious ones, but I remember the outrage when Southampton sacked Nigel Adkins and appointed Pochettino. Adkins had done a good job and didnt "deserve" to be sacked, but the choice was still a good one.

Yep, its just a series of individual circumstances and there is no pattern to see here and nothing that the club has done wrong.

It was a penalty against Birmingham. The West Brom ones perhaps but we were really poor that day. Its more the Birmingham one that people are claiming as unfortunate and undeserved whereby it was our own naivety and poor decision making that led to both goals. Especially the 2nd.

Again, you go off on tangents regarding individual players but the fact remains. And obviously regarding Gestede, how he speaks publically. And I am clearly not on my own in thinking that.

Again chaddy, 1 first team player in 2 seasons has signed a new deal at the club. That being a left back who signed on a strange initial 6 month deal that was then extended. That pattern isnt normal and isnt healthy. End of story. You clearly are swallowing everything that comes out of people within the clubs mouths and that is your prerogative.

To be fair, those death spirals seem common at Rovers regardless of manager. Thin squads unable to cope with a 46 game season.