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The point was that you was using the formation as a reason to praise Ismael whilst having a dig at previous managers who you at the time also would have defended but now theyve gone you have turned on. I just was pointing out that its not really been a roaring success. Initially we had Scott Wharton fit and got 9 of those 15 points in 3 games, hes bang average but average is much better than whats left without him. The points have not really followed since. It wasnt a debate about which formation I would or wouldnt play. To be honest, with the current set of players especially our crap defenders its impossible to build a balanced team out of whats left either way. We dont have 1 competent centre back, never mind 3, but we also dont have any competent wide players.

We have got 15 points from 12 games since we changed to a back 3/5. Its hardly been a remarkable change in results.

Brittain, Hyam, Batth, Travis and Dolan also all started. Now look at the current team and its not comparable. Look at the state of the defence now for a start.

That defence is embarassing. And it is not just a bad selection, no one could make a respectable defence.

This "what about disabled and elderly fans" argument is bizarre even for chaddy. Im sure there are some disabled and elderly fans who are also desperate for change and would welcome an attempt to try and force change.

His job is safe either way. Unless he voices any displeasure too much.

Says a lot that we signed was it 10 players in the summer, Gestede crowed as to how our squad was better, we have 24 registered. And yet the squad is in need of totally gutting. Wont happen, obviously. If we was going to back any manager in January, surely we would get a competent one in first. But we wont back anyone.

Last time he played it out perfectly. Refused to comment until we won a couple of games.

Youve not answered my question. Youve just repeated (again) how the structure works, thats not telling me why it is beneficial to run like this.

I don't think that Pickering is best suited by any means to playing as a wing back. But he is superior to alternatives in either position. He is defensively aware and decent on the ball. He wouldn't keep switching off like the useless De Neve who doesn't even offer anything going forward either. Pickering was a regular in a team that finished 8th as a wing back but still, it would be a case of not ideal, but a million times better than a bloke even a relegated Belgian side were happy to let go. Especially if Hedges is back, Pickering would be our best bet at left centre back. Ribeiro is crap and not only that, is very much a full back. Pickering has filled in at left centre back comfortably before.

The club are getting away with it having blocked the LET (although Jackson wouldn't have asked anyway) but it is absolutely crazy even for this club to have arguably our best available defender frozen out. Is he the solution to an absolute mess of a defence? Obviously not. But he should be starting either on the left side of a back 3 or at left back. He is steady, experienced, reads the game well and is good on the ball. Miller is crap, McLoughlin is crap and Ribeiro is crap.

The question was not why will you not protest to be fair, it was why are you bothering with a protest specific thread if you have no interest in it whatsoever. I totally get and agree that I wouldn't be running on the pitch, nor should people urge others to do so, especially in some cases when they dont go themselves, so wouldn't be taking on the same risks that they expect others to. But you also say it would piss alot of fans off. By this, do you mean that if other people ran onto the pitch, and lets say got a game paused, or even abandoned, embarrassing the owners/board, creating bad publicity and challenging the twats who are running our clubs into the ground. You would be pissed off about that?

Can you tell me why it is beneficial to have anyone beside the manager deciding on the tactics, the style and the players to use? Forest this season is a good example of the point I am making. Theyve signed loads of players that none of the managers have wanted to use, which suggests that theyve been selected above the manager. They are doing significantly worse and keep changing manager and style. A director of football can be useful but they have far too much power now. They shouldnt be telling the manager which style to play, how many youngsters to use, or even at times decide on signings. Im yet to see you explain why it makes sense, you just say that I dont understand if I dont agree. All of the drawbacks and risk of such a structure are obvious here. And look at us. Also, feel free to have something against Gestede. Not only incompetent and overseeing our squad being saddled with shit, but also comes across as smarmy and arroganr.

Are you sure?

Certainly doesnt help. Although our defenders individually are poor anyway which compounds it. McLoughlin is a squad player at best, Miller is even worse.