roversfan99

I am surprised that anyone thinks it should have been anything other than a red. But it didnt cost us the game, thats the key. We held a 1 nil lead going into injury time, again. We might have not had that lead in a totally different game against 10, we might have had a stronger lead, we will never know. The game was thrown away by us, not the referee.

If they did show that, then it shows how data can be misleading or at least misinterpreted. What would they stand out at?

Adam Owen being praised for his data led approach. Presume the data guided them to De Neve, Tavares, Henriksson etc?

Its not even questionable. Just absent.

Its fine to have a whinge about the clear mistake surrounding the red card. To come out with a pre prepared list of refereeing mistakes across the season in the immediate aftermath of the game, imply a lack of integrity and a bias for whatever reason to Ipswich, that is unnecessary.

He can't do anything right on a football pitch. Thats the issue. He isn't being scapegoated. People are just sick of seeing an incompetent and lazy player come on and offer nothing. He is terrible.

To varying degrees. Alebiosu has been consistently very good. Gudjohnsen might not offer much in general play but strikers need to score goals and he keeps getting them, another success. The others are much more mixed. Morishita flits in and out, has ability but often ineffective. McLoughlin is average. Miller can be decent but has a mistake in him and is poor on the ball. TGH, barely average. Forshaw has done well in the last 2 although last night only lasted 55 minutes and youd be hard pushed to suggest hes been a success overall. The thing is, we have signed far too many who are not only underwhelming, they are absolutely nowhere near it. A squad cant afford to have so many players signed that are as bad as some of ours are. You often resort to suggesting that people are negative out of desperation. I can say that there were elements of our performance that were good last night. Contrary to your suggestion on the Ismael thread, I was also very annoyed to see only a yellow card shown when I think it had to be a red card. Im not going to parrot Ismael and imply that referees favour Ipswich, thats conspiracy nonsense. And I dont think Ohashi should have had a penalty, as much as I would have taken it. But we were hard done by with the missed red card, it was poor officiating. There isnt going to be a sudden influx of brilliant referees, the only realistic solution to such situations would be VAR. All of that to me is outweighed by the annoyance I felt coming away having seen us chuck away 2 points, conceding late AGAIN, watching the same horrendous subs (obviously not Cantwell) look out of their depth. Red card or no red card, we had the lead going into injury time, and under our control, we managed to fuck it up. You like Ismael seem keen to gloss over that completely and pin all of the blame on the referee, going down the woe is me route. We still had the win in our hands and threw it away. Again. Thats the concern to me, and thats the route of most of my annoyance.

They probably need VAR because you arent going to get a sudden improvement in referee quality. But we need to look closer to home at why we keep throwing away points. Its a club now built on excuses. Hard done by with the potential red card? Yes. (Although not having the Ohashi penalty shout or a corner/goal kick decision at the other end of the pitch) But I am more concerned and focused on our own problems and so should Ismael be. Ribeiro would have made more sense. De Neve is like a few of the Rudy signings absolutely woeful. If Ismael genuinely wanted some of these players then that is especially worrying.

But we continue to show an inability to avoid conceding late goals and a number of the signings brought in by Gestede and endorsed by Ismael are coming on and really causing us problems because they are nowhere near the level. Supposedly "deserving" 3 points and not getting 3 points is not a good sign.

Those accounts wont reflect anything post this summer where we jettisoned so many experienced players and replaced with cheap crap from inferior leagues.

Isnt he/she suggesting that the issue waant having to take Hedges off but bringing the useless De Neve on?

I wasnt feeling positive after seeing us throw away another game late on. And im not prepared to just pass all the blame on to the referee, or referees in general. Was it a red card? Probably, but then the whole game becomes different. Was it a penalty? I dont think so. But we cant control that. We can control constantly chucking away points. Our pathetic home record, and constantly giving up points. The squad is so weak, the subs are embarassing, the manager is a loser. Still, we must be competing for promotion in the alternative table where we "deserve" to be.

Why would my default reaction be a positive one after yet again seeing my team chuck away a win in a way they seem to be making an art form? We did play pretty well, not quite the performance full of 8 and 9s out of 10 that the Lancashire Telegraph suggested, but its of no consolation and I am pretty pissed off this season and fearful of what the rest of the season holds.

As expected, lots of responses citing bad luck, an undeserved equaliser, hard luck, curses. We need to look closer to home. We keep conceding late goals, we cant manage games. Its not hard luck if it keeps happening. And its not kids coming off the bench, its subs that we have recently bought and that Ismael has presumably endorsed. Ismael is perfect for these owners and this board because hes a loser. His sole focus is deflection of blame and the woe is me act. Eustace talked about a no excuses culture, Ismael is quite the opposite. Reeling off refereeing decisions post match off a pre prepared list across the season. Special mentions to De Neve and Gueye, right up there with 2 of the worst players I have seen in a Rovers shirt.

I was just posting an opinion.