It could also make it very difficult for those slightly further down to make up any gap.

Was it Mowbray? I dont ever recall it coming from anything public. Wasnt the context that scouts were at our games but had been told either we wouldnt entertain below £10m or thats what he would be in the future? Either way, whoever said it was way off.

Lets hope the pitch doesnt play a negative part either. In light of Venkys cutbacks and refusing to do the full relay as promised the other year, its again looking a mess. The game isnt as hard as any this season, clearly. But of course we should approach it that way.

Its not about specifically saying you are wrong, more not stubbornly sticking by your initial impression. Case in point, RevidgeBlue about Tronstad. But on Gueye, I struggled to even see him getting 5 league goals and I didnt see him performing as he currently is so I was wrong on both. On the 2 examples you gave, Paul Mani never said he thought Buckley was worth £10m. Assuming someone did, whoever (and where) came out with that, it was clearly ridiculous. But it would be comparable if he did say that and continued to stick by it. Equally, roversclitheroe seemed to take a dislike to Hyam and even in the last couple of weeks implied that he shouldnt be playing for us at this level. So no acknowledgement that he is doing well. Going back to my point though, if you dont rate a player, or if you do rate a player highly, go to town, dont hold back. As long as if your impression turns out to be wrong, you dont just stick to that opinion. The "dont write players off" rhetoric, I dont agree with. Equally, most of us though Cantwell would be really good for us. Hes been crap. So it works both ways.

Crucial game and imperative we dont waste the platform of last night by dropping points. Yes Plymouth have picked up lately but a home game v a bottom 3 side has to be bread and butter if you have serious top 6 aspirations. If we can win, 2 or 3 other games see teams with top 6 hopes playing against each other. Because of our dreadful form it opened up to be a 9 or 10 horse race for 2 spots. A couple could start to be cut away if we can get a win. Be a big risk to stick Carter straight back in. We also could do with more in attack. Pears Brittain Sanderson Hyam Ribeiro Travis Buckley Dolan Dennis Kargbo Gueye

Or feel free to write players off or say you dont rate them. No point just sitting on the fence to be able to say I told you so. As long as if you dont rate a player ar any stage and he turns things around, you can then happily say you got it wrong.

Im sure his main beef was with the lack of resources, the reliance on short term sticking plasters and like any manager he will have wanted his own players. The season has been built on a mixture of organisation and getting the very maximum out of a core of players, predominantly who were already at the club. The likes of Tronstad, Travis, Hyam and Brittain have been the stand out performers. We signed attacking players in the summer and went into January still in desperate need of more becsuse they hadnt really worked out. Cantwell has been a huge disappointment, Gueye obviously had a very poor first half of the season but is starting to hopefully come good and Ohashi started like a house on fire but the goals totally dried up. Weimann is a useful squad player in terms of goals but as a starter will often be invisible and Cozier Duberry has been a poor loan. I dont think the recruitment has been the driver for us being where we are.

Because Brittain's form this season especially defensively is miles above anything hes shown previously. Eustace has amidst a generally solid team brought him on leaps and bounds. And JRC under Tomasson was fantastic as a right back. But as you have said on numerous occasions, I dont have a clue about football and couldnt possibly ascertain so much from 20 minutes of missed chances in a friendly against Stockport.

I remember you said something along the lines of him not being a starter but a battering ram as you say off the bench to cause chaos when chasing games. He seems beyond that now.

We all are enjoying it and hopefully he can not only keep it up but get better. Even people thinking they can say I told you so almost certainly didnt expect the Gueye we have seen recently.

Note the key word if. You have bemoaned the delays yourself so probably doesnt warrant another childish thumbs down which as a general feature adds nothing to the forum.

He would obviously not be the first to go from looking like a competition winner or at least being very underwhelming to a fairly quick transformation into a very competent player. Of course the key is to sustain and push on his recent form. Doesnt mean that he didnt look worryingly bad for a spell before it though. Even chaddy had seemingly given up hope and was happy to see him moved on.

If we are in any way behind the delay for Eustace to join Derby, we need to stop being so petty as it then delays us getting someone in.

When?

I dont think anyone said that he was the worst striker to ever play for us. Up there with the worst finishers at a time when everytime he had chance to shoot with his feet, he either spooned it miles away, tripped over the ball or telegraphed a shot essentially straight at the keeper. Tonight his finishes and also him hitting the bar showed technique with his feet that he has never shown before. Hes always had signs of hold up play (although flashes, it has now become a much more consistent staple of his game) and obviously an aeriel threat which had started to lead to goals even before tonight. You look at some of the worst strikers at least in my life time and Chris Brown would be up there. He was obviously worse than Gueye but his knees were so shot, he seldom ever had a shot he was that far off the pace.

Its senseless rubbish. If they got promoted Waggott would get and Mowbray would have got significant financial rewards. And even if they had come back down, they would have gained so much kudos for doing so. Your dislike of both causes you to come to illogical conclusions.

Fantastic, unexpected result and away performance. Considering the circumstances, certainly our most impressive performance of the season and great character from the players. Gueye was obviously the star of the show. In the first half at times he wasnt particularly good, he felt a card in waiting, it often wasnt sticking and he was pretending to be injured a lot. In the second half he was incredible, and a very popular matchwinner. Im sure people will say I told you so but this sort of performance was not even in flashes prior to a month or so ago, especially in front of goal in the past. With his feet, up to now he has been a non entity in front of goal, hes been wayward and/or meek and predictable. His first goal got help from poor keeping but was great improvisation, and his shot off the bar and also his second goal were two different techniques but both text book. In his own box he was also superb heading balls away. Hyam was brilliant at the back and has had an excellent season that hasnt got the credit he deserves. Led by @RoversClitheroe who for some reason despises him, hes not been the most popular since last season but hes gone even beyond the form of his first season here. Batth has looked a yard off it recently due to playing so much and no surprise to see him break down. Sanderson has been rash in his cameos to date but came in tonight and was very solid. Ribeiro tired towards the end as youd expect and got caught out once or twice but overall was very steady similar to Pickering. Carry on like this and the customary short term deal will have to be extended, or would be if we were capable of extending contracts. Brittain as youd expect now was solid and Pears had little to do but did it well. Travis still looks a bit rusty but really grew into the game with a leaders performance. Buckley was decent enough next to him too although gives away silly fouls too often. The 3 behind the striker is the biggest issue. Weimann had another invisible game aside from stabbing it back for the second. Dolan was the best out of 3, Hedges again a bystander. I also felt that the subs didnt really aid us, you might want one or two of those stodgy and hard working starters off the bench in such a situation. Cantwell worked hard and blocked well oncd or twice but was loose at times too and Cozier Duberry is a liability in terms of losing the ball. Kargbo lacked the maturity to run to the corner at one stage too. The key is to find a way to get at least one or two of the likes of Dennis, Cantwell, Ohashi and Kargbo in the team behind Gueye from the start, but fitness and form is not helping that.

Rubbish team. Comfortable home win.

He really isnt.

Well, he isnt.

Most could play quality football with the likes of Cole Palmer and Anthony Gordon against under 21 sides.

For some reason, even though I regularly call them both things like snakes, lapdogs, cretins etc, you seem to think I am Waggott in particulars biggest fan. The main issues in this situation again fall on the owners. Lack of investment predominantly. But obviously stuff like this while immaterial in the grand scheme of things considering what has gone on falls on those 2 dickheads.

Couldnt you say that about every element of the club? The only people that need to know are internal. There surely is a duty to communicate such matters. We have fans travelling down without officially knowing who is in charge.

It is absolutely crazy that with just over 4 hours to kick off they havent bothered to say who is taking the match.

I have said that not one name is anything other than a serious downgrade on the head coach weve just driven out. I said of the names mentioned, Rob Edwards would be my pick, forget shortlists, but even then, would prefer Eustace to stay. We just have to accept that the club is a dysfunctional mess and not change it but just hope a manager is desperate enough to work amidst it. No money, anyone of worth sold, no contracts given to add security, arse licking and incompetent board members and people like Rudy below willing to recommend shite to be added on the playing side. If whoever comes in has any ability and credibility, he will soon leave as we have seen. Just seems futile. Would any of those 4 being appointed cause you to be angry/annoyed/dissapointed/resigned to the fact that the play offs arent happening under him?