Exactly. A goalkeeper with minimal long term experience who was 22 is much more likely surely to sign long term compared to a goalkeeper coming into his peak years. No negotiation, here is the length of the contract, take it or leave it? Either way, way off on a tangent.

You would suspect that Kaminski is not on a longer term deal because of his unwillingness to commit for such a long time as a goalkeeper in his peak, moving to a new country, not wanting to tie himself down for too long initially.

The Mick McCarthy story will have a big element of an old pals act to it, I always take any manager comments about other managers with a huge pinch of salt, plus Mowbray doesn't deserve sympathy in that he is luck to still be in a job. But it would be of absolutely no surprise to find that the club is being run terribly still, and I am amazed that so many are keen to deflect blame away from the owners. They are and always have been the underlying reason for continuous negligence and incompetence ever since they stepped foot into this club. I think a few are trying to fool themselves into thinking that once we change the manager whenever that is, that things will change for the better and that the inefficiencies will cease to exist. I would be shocked if that was the case, Mowbray is just a symptom of that. Micro analysing the signing of a young sub keeper with Championship experience on a long deal, it is fair in that a manager deserves evaluating on all signings and Pears looks a dud, but in the grand scheme of things, he will be on low wages, it is not the reason that we are about to lose all of our key players on free transfers, Venkys are.

I have no interest in another long winded and time consuming debate about this, but the assertion that Mowbray leaves Nyambe out whenever possible is as fictional as it is 2/3 seasons in the past, and much of the rest of your post is massively speculative, this supporter generated FFP obsession aimed specifically at Mowbray when the budgets come from well above the managers head, culminating in a desperate slur that the manager is simply lying.

Absolute nonsense. So no I wont. https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19525768.mowbrays-message-blackburn-rovers-fans-contract-renewals/ It is about money.

Although to be fair, if the owners allowed a competitive reinvestment of the transfer fee and huge wage savings of the summer, at least some of them could be signed longer term and be considered assets.

Yeah I also remember him saying that.

It isnt balanced to criticise the manager for loans that he gets wrong yet put the good ones down to being "really lucky."

It was out of context, he was saying that he isnt very good out of possession if played in a 2, but also said that he is trying really hard off the ball to improve that side of his game. He also said that its not a surprise to see Rothwell going on "brilliant long surging runs" because that on the ball he is a "sensation." If he didnt think that he was very good, he wouldnt play him in every game he can and he wouldnt repeatedly include him in the players he really wants the club to sign up.

To be fair, Mowbray has also regularly praise his talent throughout his time here. He said a few times that he has the individual talent to match anyone in the division with one specific comparison to Benrahma. Every week he mentions how good he is to watch taking players on. I very much doubt that Rothwell has picked up that article this morning, taken that quote which is out of context and got angry. No doubt they regularly speak in general, Mowbray has also regularly said that Rothwell needs to do more, score more and create more which is right. He is right that he needs to improve off the ball, he also mentioned that he has not really played in the position he has been as much and playing a third man in there actually is trying to help him with that weakness. To suggest that he has said that Rothwell isnt very good is beyond out of context. I totally understand that people are fed up with Mowbray still being here, I am too but I find this recent habit of people critically analysing every word of every press conference often out of context to be unfair.

Here is the part where Mowbray is talking about Rothwell. Plenty of praise and appreciation for his talent, him saying that he isnt very good shouldnt be taken out of context, it is about him learning about what to do off the ball which is not ideal if in a midfield 2 which I agree with.

Hopefully they will keep Solskjaer for many years to allow him to constantly underachieve to my amusement.

Take a step back, why is it considered normal that having finished 2nd last season above Chelsea and Liverpool, that both have surpassed United to the point where they are no longer competitive with them and aren't even part of the title race? Chelsea got a proper manager with a proven track record. He has had time to build a squad packed full of quality, he spent 80m on Maguire, was it 40m for Wan Bissaka, 60m on Fernandes, 40m on Van De Beek, and now 80m on Sancho and the huge signings of Ronaldo and Varane. He has been there for a few years so why he warrants loads more is a mystery when the team looks so poorly coached. The players they have, they should be expecting to challenge for the title. They weren't particularly successful although after winning trophies, Mourinho was certainly more successful than Solskjaer. But my point is that Carragher had it right, previous poor choices shouldn't remove the ambition from the club to seek out a top quality manager going forward.

I can't fathom how you could think that he should keep his job. The problems with the team are blatant symptoms of a poorly coached team, badly organised, not good off the ball, not working hard enough etc. Why would fighting for a last Champions League spot with Leicester be in anyway acceptable when they finished 2nd last season and as well as the big money deal for Sancho they signed Ronaldo and Varane this summer, 2 serial winners who are very much for the here and now rather than building for the future? They should be challenging for the title with the money Solskjaer has spent, with the players he has been allowed to bring in and the time he has had. Neville is having a bit of a shocker on Sky Sports, he has cornered himself with his stance of never suggesting that managers should be sacked and his loyalty to United and his old team mate Solskjaer is creating a bias. Carragher is spot on, just because they have appointed good managers in the past that haven't worked out, it shouldn't mean that they shouldn't strive to get a top class manager going forward. Chelsea, City and Liverpool have probably the 3 best managers around, why should United stick with someone who has a piss poor CV in comparison?

I hope not as it is hilarious to see them at the moment, but surely Solskjaer will be at the job centre tomorrow morning. Such a poorly organised and coached side.

Cant argue with that.

There is absolutely no suggestion that the reason that these players wont sign new deals is that Mowbray wont consent to pay rises to 10k. He has regularly said that he wants them to stay but that it is down to the owners because they want more than we are currently offering which is as much as we can within the strict budgets.

When a team is winning it is natural for the other team to be further forward trying to score. But I don't think we sat back that much or ever looked likely to concede, in fact if anyone was to score I would have said it was us.

Why specifically until that date? And from who, I doubt that anyone who wants Mowbray out will have changed their mind today. Had we lost, he would remain with us 3 points worse off.

Good win today, Mowbray wasn't going regardless of the result so people just need to enjoy it for what it is. He deserves credit too for his team selection and his game management, he got it right today just as he has got things wrong in recent weeks. Drab, lifeless first half but dominant in the second half. Dolan had a strange game, had he gone off after an hour then it would have been justified, he looked slow, off the pace and was making poor decisions. His goal was superb though and he repeatedly gave their defender nightmares when Mowbray moved him wide left which was a good move, although his cut backs were poor and he should have passed for Brereton at the end. Brereton was fairly quiet today, Gallagher was better and could have had 2 or 3. Poveda lost the ball once too many although played one or two good balls, notably a great cross which should have led to a third after a clever Brereton knock down. Rothwell was fairly quiet aside from some more genius for the first goal, so much more influential than Buckley who needs to do more and also needs to stop getting needless bookings. Travis was ok but not at his best. The 2 defensive injuries are major worries, Van Hecke certainly has a mistake in him so if Ayala is injured for a few weeks, hopefully Wharton can be involved next weekend.

Can you share these tweets please. He is out of contract at the end of the season, so I very much doubt that there is more to read into it than that. I think (may be wrong) that the second tweet reads like Mercer which would remove any likelihood of it being correct.

Main achilles heel implies that he has other weaknesses. That being said, I do not see enough to suggest that a lack of effort or care from him is causing any of the issues we see. It is a shame that things are becoming somewhat toxic as he did a good job initially, he seems a decent guy and he is the best manager in the last 10 years, albeit that isn't an honour to be particularly proud of. I don't doubt that he thinks that he can turn it around and that he does care but this last 18 months have been going backwards and will continue to do so.

But there is no suggestion that Mowbray genuinely "doesn't give a shit." He spends numerous days living on his own away from his family, and there is no suggestion that he doesn't put in the hours. Ultimately he is a dour man anyway, add some awkward questions about his underperforming and he is never going to give off energy and charisma. His main achilles heel has been bizarre tactical decisions that stem from overthinking, it always has been. Strange tactical choices such as 3 at the back, Clarkson almost as a false 9 etc, they have similarities to playing Bell and Williams down the left hand side at home to Oldham, saying how much he respects the Bury right back etc. Going from extreme possession football to being bottom of the same table in the next season, from one extreme to another. He is always trying to get ahead but seldom do his crazy ideas work. That is an issue of competence, not effort, and that is what we need from our manager.

Not at all. If we go one or two down, there will be moans and groans, boos, maybe "Mowbray sort it out," it might lead to a few spiky answers in a press conference. I don't see any benefit though because it will not hasten his exit. Him "making a knob of himself getting all defensive" would not be of any consolation to me whatsoever. It wouldn't make a difference, Venkys would be oblivious even if you could get mass participation which wouldn't happen. Went on numerous protests against Kean, remember all of the different ways that the action group etc got publicity, it made no difference, so a comparatively much milder protest will not make a difference.

The Ainsworth obsession on accounts of who he supports is a little strange. Him jumping around on the sidelines or who he supported as a child would be no consolation to me if we lost games under him. The decision should not factor in who people support or how they act on the touchline. As said previously, Allardyce used to spend half the game watching from above in the stand, Coyle spent the whole game animated in full kit, who would we prefer?