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I hardly think that he would have been under severe stick with people getting out the bed sheets to scrawl Mowbray Out on them, but there would have been some moans, groans and boos. My point was that he is in a bubble at the moment (as is any under performing manager) whereby the poor results and performances are not causing any audible criticism to him. Venkys dont care enough to notice what is going on at games, anyway, hence their inability to turn up for years and years and their ignorance during the Kean era. Also, the debt is owed by Rovers to Venkys London Limited.

For Mowbray, the fact that there are no fans considering the stagnation is probably a lucky reprieve.

Was Mowbray questioned on the Gallagher at RB fiasco post match? Not seen him directly address the issue, he comes across as particularly spikey and grumpy after defeats and ive seen Rich Sharpe defend himself a few times saying that he regularly asks about the wide strikers, false 9s etc in the past and its been explained, so I do wonder if journalists thought better rather than even asking him.

Cant argue with your analysis of the various choices made through the game. I would never make the decision based solely on one game but ultimately many of the issues raised were further examples of the nonsensical choices that Mowbray often makes. I do think looking back that we were all perhaps (to varying degrees) misled by the scorelines against Wycombe, Derby, Coventry and Preston, 3 of which we played against 10 men for much of that time. Even during that period, we never got good enough results to break into the top 6 after the third game in, so it was always based on an assumption that if we persisted with that consistent system for long enough, we might challenge the top 6 which obviously has never materialised. The one time prior (admittedly in League 1) that we could be confident about getting results regularly was based on consistent selections, square pegs in square holes and familiarity. His new attempts seem based on a flawed perception of possession, over thinking and at times total confusion. I think even when we was performing slighty better, we still had that unhealthy reliance on the goals of Armstrong. Its during the leaner spells that all strikers go through whereby you really notice how flaky the contributions of the supporting cast are. We marvelled over the likes of Holtby, Rothwell, Dolan (he is a kid who burst onto the scene then soon faded so no blame towards him) and based on the lowest of benchmarks, Brereton and their performances when we ran riot v 10 men but ultimately their contributions this season are again minimal, even when much of the time the side has been built to suit them.

Unsure why anyone feels the need to tweet sources unlikely to know anything different from what is common knowledge. It is a manager that our negligent and disinterested owners seem comfortable with, our CEO is a friend from a previous club and apparently publically laughed off questions over his future at the last public meeting, and his close friend and assistant is also the director of football (or something similar, not 100%) based on interviews in the past. He is in the perfect situation, throw in no fans to question him at games and a lorry load of excuses to hand should he ever need them and he will be as safe as houses. Interesting to see the doubts you have about the managers future, is this a general reaction to the Preston game or the final straw? As you seem to have gone from insistence that he stays even midway through last week to questioning, what was it about the Preston game in particular? Was it the particularly bizarre tactical choices and subs? Talk about Neil coming in are seemingly solely posted for provocative purposes and are from a source with a very poor track record.

Wont be holding my breath on that rumour.

To be fair sometimes it is good to have an assistant who does not just blindly agree with your every word. Alex Ferguson used to go through assistants quite regularly.

Its impossible to say that a league position is misleading because points tallies vary year on year and league positions are all that matters. But our goal difference helps perception especially for those keen for Mowbray to stay who are keen to point to our league placing as proof of progression. We are 9th, so 2 places higher than last season, but we are 7 points away from 6th place, so a 3 game turn. We are level on points with 4 teams underneath us, and a 3 game swing the other way could allow 20th place to catch up to us. We arent on the cusp of our top 6 target.

He keeps randomly mentioning the injuries as if they are preventing him from naming a settled and consistent team, yet he has said that he doesnt know or have a best team because he likes to use different players in different games, so its a stupid excuse. The only time we have shown consistency was in League 1, when we played essentially the same team every week, 4231, Dack off Graham, Mulgrew and Lenihan at CB, Nyambe RB, Williams LB, Smallwood and Evans in CM, a defensive winger such as Bennett and a more attacking one such as Armstrong, and the players knew exactly what was expected of them. Even if we had to make a change to that team, a Conway, an Antonsson, a Downing, a Payne (so hardly a cast of stars) could come in and again know exactly what they were slotting in. Injuries across the board are common this season, the pitfalls of the calendar and the added risk of Covid. You look into who is missing at the moment, Ayala, Wharton and Williams, none of whom ever nailed down a spot but importantly now have been replaced by loanees, he wouldnt normally have 6 centre backs which we do have contracted until the end of the season. Also injured are Rankin Costello who has never performed to a level whereby he has forced himself regularly into the starting line up, and a player who is a marked downgrade on Nyambe. And then 3 midfielders, Johnson, Trybull and Holtby, the latter 2 who are Mowbray signings who repeatedly suffer from injuries and have always been in and out at best, and all 3 in an area where he has been allowed to accumulate many bodies, none of his signings who have ever repeatedly impressed, but he still has Travis, Davenport, Downing, Buckley, Rothwell and Evans.

"Boring football" though, apparently.

It goes against all logic to suggest that Mowbray doesnt want promotion. If he managed it, his wages would go up, and even if he was sacked, he would be paid off. He just isnt capable of achieving a genuine play off/promotion push. He has signed too many players that sum up the team as a whole, attacking players like Rothwell, Holtby, Brereton and Gallagher who may have the odd attribute but cannot offer anything of any consistency, and whose role in our team are still questionable even now. Kids on loan trying to patch up a feeble defence. And a lorry load of central midfielders, none bar an academy graduate who can nail down a position. His tactics are overcomplicated to the point of total inconsistency and confusion, and his subs are bizarre.

Cardiff 2 up v Coventry and set for 11 points in 5 games under Mick McCarthy and set to go up to 7th. Not bad for an unfashionable dinosaur.

Surprised to see this. Even aside from his bizarre cameo at right back, all he did of any value was dive for the penalty. Questions over his defending and positioning for both goals and I dont recall any attacking contributions of any worth. There was once when he totally messed up an opportunity to slide Armstrong in.

Today was his second or third start since returning and he was our biggest threat, not that its saying much. Physically he looks fine. To say he is a shadow of the player or an elephant in the room is crazy at this stage. He needs a run in the team in his best position.

Thats a massive overreaction. Understandable emotionally driven frustration, but embarassed? Behave. Most of those reasons are just buzzwords. The net spend is more than competitive, over 15m. Are we going forward, is there a plan or do his tactics and subs resemble chaos? If the main reason to stick is fear then thats not one that paints the manager in a favourable light and surely is one that will never ever change.

Did v Stoke. Been really poor lately although when there are no alternatives you stick with him so no defence of the subs Mowbray made but Nyambe warrants criticism too.

To make the subs Mowbray has made was totally bizarre and there is no excuse. But Nyambe is not a golden child, hes not the best right in the league and at times he is overrated. The whole defence including Nyambe was to blame for the first and its far from the first mistake hes made in recent weeks. Problem is we dont have a valid alternative to him either.

Absolutely dismal performance and an absolute mess on behalf of the manager. His tactics most of the time resemble total chaos, players out of position, subs increasing the confusion, constant changes of system and ultimately no clarity, with players struggling to know what to do. Scoreline flattered us with another wrong decision going our way. The subs today as touched upon elsewhere were absolutely bizarre, nobody else would have done what he did. Branthwaite had a shocker on the back of a mistake last week and a horrendous challenge that should have led to a red card and penalty the week before. Get him out the team, bring in the other loan kid. Rothwell a waste of space 95% of the time. Nyambe massively overrated although he shouldnt have been subbed off. Kaminski a bomb scare tonight. Travis and Davenport ok, Dack our only spark so no doubt will be dropped. We didnt have a chance of the top 6 before the game, even less so now. This isnt progress, and whilst some of the understandable emotional reactions on this thread are not fair. He has to go now.

Great to see Dack playing and Douglas back too but that side doesnt look balanced. Dack in front of Travis and Davenport leaves Gallagher on the wing, no thanks. The worst scenario is Dack false 9, Armstrong and Gallagher on the wings. And the box midfield rarely works and would leave Dack too wide.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56009301?at_medium=custom7&at_custom1=[post+type]&at_custom4=E9F5C6AA-6B88-11EB-AAD5-CEFD923C408C&at_custom3=Match+of+the+Day&at_campaign=64&at_custom2=facebook_page Smallwood out for the season.

For me there are some things that have to happen with the team. Dack HAS to start and in his best position. Harwood Bellis should not at any point be shoe horned in regardless of Mowbray trying to appease Pep. Douglas has to come back in, the only selection dilemma for me is the left side where no one is demanding a start to be honest. Kaminski Nyambe Lenihan Branthwaite Douglas Travis Davenport Elliott Dack Brereton Armstrong Subs: Pears, Harwood Bellis, Gallagher, Dolan, Rothwell, Downing, Trybull, Bell, Bennett

With his contract about to expire, it would make no sense for him to sign up again here for another year.

Rhodes has scored again tonight for Sheffield Wednesday.

This latest news which is I think somewhat misunderstood has again been greeted with plenty of reactions as per the attached. And one thing I really did notice is that many of the responses are from people younger than me, maybe between late teens and early to mid 20s. (I think the bottom one that ive shown is particularly seen as almost a parody account) I do find it baffling quite how much people defend them, especially often to the point of slagging off fans who do still have any disdain, and often comparing to Wigan/Bolton/Bury which are comparisons that really lack any understanding of the bigger picture. But there are definitely patterns between ages and reactions.